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The Trump Presidency...

Socialists long ago decided the working classes weren't worth saving and why they've been on a drive to invent new oppressed minorities and the nation state is an obstacle to true equality and as such they're are entirely internationalist in nature and have climbed into bed with the free market to attain its own private goals.

You must be hanging around with different a different type of socialist I hangout with.

The working class is roughly split 50/50 between Conservatives/ Labour votes in the UK. Any party walking away from that share of the votes does not make sense.

Why can't socialists support a minority group against being exploited AND support the working class/middle class?
 
You must be hanging around with different a different type of socialist I hangout with.

The working class is roughly split 50/50 between Conservatives/ Labour votes in the UK. Any party walking away from that share of the votes does not make sense.

Why can't socialists support a minority group against being exploited AND support the working class/middle class?
One of my closest friends works for newcastle uni and is a deep corbyn supporter. He regularly bemoans the hampstead/islington version of socialism and sees them only in the frame of useful idiots... The Bolsheviks had the same ideas, of wiping out all the other socialists and the Islington set itself, despises the white working class, as much as the democratic party does in the united states.

Your right the working class is divided at every level, which is rather the intention one would assume, to create a powerless majority.
 
One of my closest friends works for newcastle uni and is a deep corbyn supporter. He regularly bemoans the hampstead/islington version of socialism and sees them only in the frame of useful idiots... The Bolsheviks had the same ideas, of wiping out all the other socialists and the Islington set itself, despises the white working class, as much as the democratic party does in the united states.

Your right the working class is divided at every level, which is rather the intention one would assume, to create a powerless majority.
Russians don't have friends. They only have fellow wife-beating thugs they drink anti-freeze with.
 
Socialists long ago decided the working classes weren't worth saving and why they've been on a drive to invent new oppressed minorities and the nation state is an obstacle to true equality and as such they're are entirely internationalist in nature and have climbed into bed with the free market to attain its own private goals.

So in short, Globalist free-marketeers and progressive socialists are in tacit, tactical alliance to achieve what will eventually turn out to be divergent strategic objectives, but in the meantime to the detriment of what currently constitutes the classic liberal-democratic nation-state...?
 
All very well, but if this stuff never reaches beyond a court hearing and the state employees are not subject to legal investigation and threatened with perjury, then we will never get to the bottom and bingo, your into the realms of smoke can be seen, but lets not investigate.

My view, unlike HectortheRussianDetector, is all sides lie to us and its up to the State to prove beyond reasonable doubt and by leaving things uninvestigated, you actually play into the hands of our enemies far more, than exposing fraud, or forensically proving all the conspiracy as bunk.
No, I said that you were peddling the same moral and ethical vacuum as the Russians do.

The fact that IN YOUR OPINION that "all sides lie" is again a baseless conspiracy theory. A lie.

It is the nihilistic view that all sides are equally worthless, and therefore everything is equally false.
Basically, "That there can be no truth, so everything is notionally possible, so everything has an equal chance of being true."

Which is self evidently 24 carat bollocks.
It means that if I say all trees are made of cheese, instead of saying "that's mad, or a stupid lie" you say, "It might be so. They might be made of plastic. Who is to say? Maybe you are the representative of an international Jewish cheese cartel?"

Trump is a demonstrated fraud, thief and liar.
He lost the election. Fact.
There is no credible evidence of election fraud. Fact.
Saying otherwise is either wilful stupidity, delusional, or a lie.
 
So in short, Globalist free-marketeers and progressive socialists are in tacit, tactical alliance to achieve what will eventually turn out to be divergent strategic objectives, but in the meantime to the detriment of what currently constitutes the classic liberal-democratic nation-state...?
My enemies enemy is my friend and you could add to machivelli; that once my enemy is defeated, my allies are next in a final battle, winner takes all and the free marketeers are mugs to think the progressive socialists won't ultimately win, because they're believe in something greater than money.

I doubt the politicians who front the culture wars, really understand, how little control they're really have. In the case of america, it reminds me of the declining british empire and the politicians seeing there role as managing that decline. The bollox of it all, is the people have already stirred into rebellion via the ballot box and its a bit of a gamble to assume that democracy can keep a lid on things, if prosperity does not return.
 

ABNredleg

War Hero
It's Twitter and users can put up anything they want. Some pictures will be true, some pictures will be fabricated.
For example Trump twitted that he won the election, but that does not make it true.

In the name of fact checking can we all try and use sources with links to source material?
True - I’ll try to be more careful.
 

ABNredleg

War Hero
All very well, but if this stuff never reaches beyond a court hearing and the state employees are not subject to legal investigation and threatened with perjury, then we will never get to the bottom and bingo, your into the realms of smoke can be seen, but lets not investigate.

My view, unlike HectortheRussianDetector, is all sides lie to us and its up to the State to prove beyond reasonable doubt and by leaving things uninvestigated, you actually play into the hands of our enemies far more, than exposing fraud, or forensically proving all the conspiracy as bunk.
You can’t prove a negative - the burden of proof is on those alleging fraud. They don’t need complete proof for law enforcement to investigate, but they can’t provide any at this point, only allegations.
 
My enemies enemy is my friend and you could add to machivelli; that once my enemy is defeated, my allies are next in a final battle, winner takes all and the free marketeers are mugs to think the progressive socialists won't ultimately win, because they're believe in something greater than money.

I doubt the politicians who front the culture wars, really understand, how little control they're really have. In the case of america, it reminds me of the declining british empire and the politicians seeing there role as managing that decline. The bollox of it all, is the people have already stirred into rebellion via the ballot box and its a bit of a gamble to assume that democracy can keep a lid on things, if prosperity does not return.

It's Machiavelli you SPOTY front-runner. Capital M, "a" after the first i.

Conclusion:
You have SPOTY in the bag.



Actually you are starting to remind me of KGB and his ever changing series of lies about MH17.

Hmmm. If only I could make the connection.
 
It's Machiavelli you SPOTY front-runner. Capital M, "a" after the first i.

Conclusion:
You have SPOTY in the bag.



Actually you are starting to remind me of KGB and his ever changing series of lies about MH17.

Hmmm. If only I could make the connection.
You could always PM him and offer him some black market beetroots and turnips, given how sought after they are in the USSR, errm, Russia these days.
 
You can’t prove a negative - the burden of proof is on those alleging fraud. They don’t need complete proof for law enforcement to investigate, but they can’t provide any at this point, only allegations.
My own personal data analytics detected anomalies, that cannot exist in the real world and to me that is proof. To someone else, they're want a smoking gun and a body and the gatekeepers at the moment are the state judges who simply refuse to engage.... I've said on several occassions, all Trump needs is one of those cases, to have compelling enough evidence to proceed and pandoras box will be opened.

At the mo, were at an impasse, as the one side refuses to look, or engage and the other is forced into sensationalism, because the clock is running down very fast and I think Biden will be the next president, but it would be nice for democracy to be shored up in the states (the desire to drive trump out, was simply too great to allow any alternative outcome).
 
My idiotic view,, is all sides lie to us and its up to the State to prove beyond reasonable doubt and by leaving things uninvestigated, you actually play into the hands of our enemies far more, than exposing fraud, or forensically proving all the conspiracy as bunk.
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Sidney Powell , Bloomberg

A lawyer who was dropped from President Donald Trump’s legal team filed typo-strewn lawsuits in Michigan and Georgia alleging massive election fraud.

Sidney Powell, who has pushed some of the most extreme conspiracy theories around the election of Joe Biden, filed the lawsuits late Wednesday, according to a post on Twitter. The two cases have similar themes of problems linked to voting machines, mail-in ballots and deceased Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez.

Powell was kicked off Trump’s legal team this week after her claims about a vast Democratic conspiracy against the president. Days earlier she had appeared at a press conference alongside Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani, where she alleged a plot to swing the election to Biden that involved voting-machine tampering and Venezuela.

Both of Powell’s latest lawsuits were riddled with typographical errors.

The Michigan lawsuit, which was on the court website, was frequently marred by formatting problems that removed the spacing between words. For example:

“TheTCFCenterwastheonlyfacilitywithinWayneCountyauthorizedtocountthe ballots.”

In the Georgia complaint, which was only available on Powell’s website, the word district in the court name was misspelled twice on the first page of the document. First there was an extra c for “DISTRICCT” and then, a few words later, “DISTRCOICT.”
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What could possibly go wrong with two 'esteemed' batshit crazy idiots presenting cases in court with
"We think this happened so prove us wrong."
 
It's Machiavelli you SPOTY front-runner. Capital M, "a" after the first i.

Conclusion:
You have SPOTY in the bag.



Actually you are starting to remind me of KGB and his ever changing series of lies about MH17.

Hmmm. If only I could make the connection.

The adding of an apostrophe where it shouldn't be, leaving out an apostrophe where it should be, sticking a random comma into a sentence, misspelling common words but getting complicated and little used ones right, putting odd words in to a sentence as if the thesaurus is being extensively used but picking a strange synonym.
All things that obviously point to an EFL user should remind you of @KGB_resident even more so.

Not that I'm saying he is that poster but it does hint at a conclusion they both hot desk.
 
Priceless.

You are taking the piss now.

My personal anomaly detector detected that you are an idiot.
If MConJobby would submit this analysis for peer review one of two things would happen.

1) He would overturn an election and go down in history as the savior of the stupidest President ever to grace the White House.

or

2) He would be laughed at mercilessly for the dumbest analysis ever for the rest of his life.
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It must be tough times sitting in a cellar with so much irrefutable evidence with no one caring about it.

So my question is, why is he spending his time on Arrse instead of beating down Rudy Ghoulianni or Powells door with this proof?
 

rampant

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Sidney Powell , Bloomberg

A lawyer who was dropped from President Donald Trump’s legal team filed typo-strewn lawsuits in Michigan and Georgia alleging massive election fraud.

Sidney Powell, who has pushed some of the most extreme conspiracy theories around the election of Joe Biden, filed the lawsuits late Wednesday, according to a post on Twitter. The two cases have similar themes of problems linked to voting machines, mail-in ballots and deceased Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez.

Powell was kicked off Trump’s legal team this week after her claims about a vast Democratic conspiracy against the president. Days earlier she had appeared at a press conference alongside Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani, where she alleged a plot to swing the election to Biden that involved voting-machine tampering and Venezuela.

Both of Powell’s latest lawsuits were riddled with typographical errors.

The Michigan lawsuit, which was on the court website, was frequently marred by formatting problems that removed the spacing between words. For example:

“TheTCFCenterwastheonlyfacilitywithinWayneCountyauthorizedtocountthe ballots.”

In the Georgia complaint, which was only available on Powell’s website, the word district in the court name was misspelled twice on the first page of the document. First there was an extra c for “DISTRICCT” and then, a few words later, “DISTRCOICT.”
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What could possibly go wrong with two 'esteemed' batshit crazy idiots presenting cases in court with
"We think this happened so prove us wrong."


Her expert is the bloke from 8kun, who read the machine's instruction manual.

Looking forward to this being absolutely shredded and Powell professionally humiliated
 
My own personal data analytics detected anomalies, that cannot exist in the real world and to me that is proof.

But what you think is the 'real world' depends upon your own subjective opinion and perception of what should happen.

To someone else, they're want a smoking gun and a body

Correct. Or in other words, something tangible, such as, errrr, evidence.

and the gatekeepers at the moment are the state judges who simply refuse to engage....

Because they need something tangible, such as..... errrr…. evidence. Not half arsed conspiracy theories.
 
Socialists long ago decided the working classes weren't worth saving and why they've been on a drive to invent new oppressed minorities and the nation state is an obstacle to true equality and as such they're are entirely internationalist in nature and have climbed into bed with the free market to attain its own private goals.

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Go SPOTY!
 
One of my closest friends works for newcastle uni and is a deep corbyn supporter. He regularly bemoans the hampstead/islington version of socialism and sees them only in the frame of useful idiots... The Bolsheviks had the same ideas, of wiping out all the other socialists and the Islington set itself, despises the white working class, as much as the democratic party does in the united states.

Your right the working class is divided at every level, which is rather the intention one would assume, to create a powerless majority.

As long as they all vote and the next Labour government builds enough council houses for the people, invests in education, invests in UK manufacturing and business and does not let corporations run rough shod over our rights, then I am not that fussed.

If they can get the railways renationalised and a strong UK SOE Energy company too then that would be a bonus. ;0)
 

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