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The Trump Presidency...

offog

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Commies/anarchists and dirtbags.
I see you are lying to yourself.

Cause and effect.

You have shown the effect but can't bring yourself to say out load the cause as to do so your world will come crashing down.

We both know that you know what the cause was so grow up and say it out load. Until you accept the cause you will continue to suffer the effect.
 

offog

LE
bollocks - you are bound by your own imputation of UK libel law - the comment falls under opinion, not statement of fact - or had you forgotten that whether an allegation that someone has acted 'dishonestly' or 'criminally' is an allegation of fact or expression of opinion will very much depend upon context. There is no fixed rule that a statement that someone has been dishonest must be treated as an allegation of fact, and Where hyperlinks are provided in an online article, there is no reason to exclude that contextual material - Indeed, it will well lend significant support to the submission that readers would have understood the publication to be an expression of opinion
You still haven't provided any proof for the claim.
All your link said (which you added after I had commented) was that some of the actions were questionable and that there were conflicts of interest with US policy but not criminal. Go read it.
 
That some of the actions were questionable and that there were conflicts of interest with US policy but not criminal. Go read it.

Not true, it specifically cites criminal concerns:

“ The Treasury records acquired by the Chairmen show potential criminal activity relating to transactions among and between Hunter Biden, his family, and his associates with Ukrainian, Russian, Kazakh and Chinese nationals. In particular, these documents show that Hunter Biden received millions of dollars from foreign sources as a result of business relationships that he built during the period when his father was vice president of the United States and after. In addition to providing new and descriptive details about the nature, origin and extent of payments from Burisma Holdings to Hunter Biden, ”

And regards demands of ‘proof’ you’ve still failed to demonstrate that what was said statement of fact rather than comment - which given your own invocation of defamation law is crucial.
 

offog

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Not true, it specifically cites criminal concerns:

“ The Treasury records acquired by the Chairmen show potential criminal activity relating to transactions among and between Hunter Biden, his family, and his associates with Ukrainian, Russian, Kazakh and Chinese nationals. In particular, these documents show that Hunter Biden received millions of dollars from foreign sources as a result of business relationships that he built during the period when his father was vice president of the United States and after. In addition to providing new and descriptive details about the nature, origin and extent of payments from Burisma Holdings to Hunter Biden, ”

And regards demands of ‘proof’ you’ve still failed to demonstrate that what was said statement of fact rather than comment - which given your own invocation of defamation law is crucial.

Did you not read that bit.

Hunter’s criminal business dealings

The question asked was about a conflict of interest but your post talks about criminal business which are not the same. As you failed to comment on the post one can only assume that you agree with it but when asked to provide any evidence all you do is bluster and provide evidence of a conflict of interest.

You are still unable to provide any proof of criminal activity, very shady activity I will grant you but all your evidence has proven is protentional for criminal actions but no evidence of actual criminality.

So can you provide any evidence to support your posts claim?
 
bollocks - you are bound by your own imputation of UK libel law - the comment falls under opinion, not statement of fact - or had you forgotten that whether an allegation that someone has acted 'dishonestly' or 'criminally' is an allegation of fact or expression of opinion will very much depend upon context. There is no fixed rule that a statement that someone has been dishonest must be treated as an allegation of fact, and Where hyperlinks are provided in an online article, there is no reason to exclude that contextual material - Indeed, it will well lend significant support to the submission that readers would have understood the publication to be an expression of opinion

You omitted that the opinion must be both honestly held and reasonable.
 
Not true, it specifically cites criminal concerns:

“ The Treasury records acquired by the Chairmen show potential criminal activity relating to transactions among and between Hunter Biden, his family, and his associates with Ukrainian, Russian, Kazakh and Chinese nationals. In particular, these documents show that Hunter Biden received millions of dollars from foreign sources as a result of business relationships that he built during the period when his father was vice president of the United States and after. In addition to providing new and descriptive details about the nature, origin and extent of payments from Burisma Holdings to Hunter Biden, ”

And regards demands of ‘proof’ you’ve still failed to demonstrate that what was said statement of fact rather than comment - which given your own invocation of defamation law is crucial.
We've just heard about another slew of Banks, knee deep in money laundering. Big business; wrap themselves in the flag for a pay out, but patriotism is a dirty word any other time and who built china, as it damn well wasn't china itself (amusingly the china flu laboratory was built by the french). We had german car companies clearly lying and the media routinely report the news, by omitting the alternative and inconvenient facts which contradict the narrative/summary of a story.

Where supposed to only focus on the potential criminality of anyone who steps out of line and puts themselves at odds with the establishment. Even the austrian populist, who was entrapped, the videos were edited to the extent that it makes clear nothing were told bares any relation to the pursuit of truth and justice.

Bidens son is a made man, until his father finally loses his special status and likely departs his mortal coil.
 
Here's a somewhat long but very interesting article about the up coming US presidential election and how Trump may react in his "Der Untergang" moment...

The Election That Could Break America
Another great Atlantic article laying out all the different scenarios that may happen in the weeks following the election. In a normal election many of these scenarios would never be considered, one or two recounts maybe then a concession speech "We tried our best thank you now let America move on." but this isn't a normal year.

The stage has been set to contest every single element of this election.
 
Is the to and fro over this report:


which shows Hunter's Burisma connection being awkward but did not affect US policy nor show the VP as not having meddled in Ukraine's affairs to help Hunter.

So it's a nothingburger then?
With a side order of fries.
 
My point proven.
Thanks.
Point Proven?
Not really, I think you dropped this on your way to making the point.
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But I thank you for trying to set me on the path to righteousness.
 
Another great Atlantic article laying out all the different scenarios that may happen in the weeks following the election. In a normal election many of these scenarios would never be considered, one or two recounts maybe then a concession speech "We tried our best thank you now let America move on." but this isn't a normal year.

The stage has been set to contest every single element of this election.

Another non pc thing to keep in mind.
 

offog

LE
Is the to and fro over this report:


which shows Hunter's Burisma connection being awkward but did not affect US policy nor show the VP as not having meddled in Ukraine's affairs to help Hunter.

So it's a nothingburger then?
That's about it. Even after a congressional investigation the best they could come up with was a possible conflict of interest.

Lots of could, may, possibly but no hard evidence and if you think of the way the US prosecutes foreign businessmen with a vengeance as you say a nothingburger.
 

offog

LE

Another non pc thing to keep in mind.
Not to worry Trump has already said he will not commit to accepting the election result and said he will get ride of the ballot.

Mr Trump interjected: "Get rid of the ballots, and you'll have a very - you'll have a very peaceful - there won't be a transfer, frankly, there'll be a continuation."

I also saw that he was going to sign an executive order removing Biden from the ballot to which his supporters cheered (We both know he can't do that but his Trumpets think he can).

So dictator Trump the First is just round the corner.
 
Not to worry Trump has already said he will not commit to accepting the election result and said he will get ride of the ballot.



I also saw that he was going to sign an executive order removing Biden from the ballot to which his supporters cheered (We both know he can't do that but his Trumpets think he can).

So dictator Trump the First is just round the corner.
Both sides have fears over mail in voting, as it can be exploited by both parties. But I am preparing for a "bumpy" November.
 
That's about it. Even after a congressional investigation the best they could come up with was a possible conflict of interest.

Lots of could, may, possibly but no hard evidence and if you think of the way the US prosecutes foreign businessmen with a vengeance as you say a nothingburger.

And with it having been written by the majority Republican senators, then a double nothingburger with cheese and pickles.
 
Is the to and fro over this report:


which shows Hunter's Burisma connection being awkward but did not affect US policy nor show the VP as not having meddled in Ukraine's affairs to help Hunter.

So it's a nothingburger then?

It’s a lot more evidence than was used to impeach Trump...
 
And with it having been written by the majority Republican senators, then a double nothingburger with cheese and pickles.

Hunter's conduct was a problem, but the children of politicians Trump's included pretty much get a free pass to be a pita. Now were those unwritten rules to change, then it wouldn't be given a blind eye.
 
Senate Majority Leader Moscow Mitch McConnell on Thursday morning pushed back on President Donald Trump's refusal to commit to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses the election.
McConnell tweeted, "The winner of the November 3rd election will be inaugurated on January 20th. There will be an orderly transition just as there has been every four years since 1792."

The winner of the November 3rd election will be inaugurated on January 20th. There will be an orderly transition just as there has been every four years since 1792.
— Leader McConnell (@senatemajldr) September 24, 2020
 
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