The Trump Presidency...

It appears that another of Trump's vocal cheerleaders, the NRA, is facing a case in NY looking to dissolve it for gross financial malpractice.
How odd. It is almost as if being a bit hooky is a prerequisite for being Trumpy.
(Cue anguished screaming from various cult members.)
Do you think you can muffle yourself? I can hear your shrieks from the backyard and it is taking away from the bourbon and grilling.

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His whole campaign is controlled by the hard left in my country. He was a moderate in the past. But everybody knows he is being used in an attempt to install the radical left in power. His vp pick, and proposed policies are not his. The debates will sink him, when the nation sees his fragile state. Or if he skips them. Biden is in between a rock and a hard place.
If Bidens campaign is controlled the hard left why do they hate him so much, he isn't their choice, he's all they have right now. If I was running his campaign I be reminding Trump that presidential debates have the same history as showing your taxes and make the debates contingent on Trump releasing his and see where that goes.

I wouldn't put to much store in the debates, if you go back and watch Trump during the Republican and presidential debates he was strong on pipe dreams and insulting his rivals but non existent on actual policy. Remember that wall, coal and steel, repeal and replace, debt and infrastructure, how did all that work out. On the bright side you do have Space Force.
 
He has already said that.
Its accepted political argument on both sides of the pond, that the first term presidency/government can only set the stage and its the second term when hard legislation starts to get pushed through... So electing biden on a single term isn't even setting the stage, but just changing the script writer.
 
How does that work in America? Or Europe?

Which western corporations have been sold to the Chinese by western governments?

Do the governments own these corporations?

What is this strange process you speak of?

I might have got it wrong but I always assumed that privately owned corporations were sold to foreigners by their owners, their board, their parent board, their shareholders or any combination thereof.

You don't really know what you are talking about, do you?
I must have slept through the past 30 odd years, where china went from a backwater, to global power.. Take something tiny, like the infamous wuhan lab that was experimenting with chimera viruses and who built it ? it was france. Our old alma mater, the military.

Take a look at the chinese PLA and see the amount of technology, that has been ripped from the west and russia ? it manufactured our tat, then created parallel companies and most infamously the humvee, which has a half dozen chinese copies.

Conclusions:-
All the while, your man Biden was one of those promoting china dialogue and the theory that china would come around to the west, via capitalism. Well that 1990s strategic thinking, is the exact consequence of where we are today and if that doesn't bother you, then it demonstrates how narrow your thinking is.

So long as the democrats talk tough on russia, the myopic russophobes prance around like expectant children.
 
Thought not. Radical hard left my ARRSE.
A lot of people seem to think that 'not entirely agreeing with my exact political views' = 'extreme left/right*', especially on this and the Brexit threads.

It would be funny, if it weren't sad.

I know a few actual socialists**; really nice blokes and more than happy to talk you through their views / hear your own out. They genuinely care about those that have a sh*tty life of it - especially where this is through no fault of their own. One of them even admits that Diane Abbott is a tool (and like me - thinks she deserves the abuse she gets for being incompetent, but not that which she receives for being Black / female).

*delete as appropriate, obviously.
** and one anarcho-communist - he's a great bartender but jumps on the back of every perceived injustice, whether the facts support the reality or not. We don't speak much.
 
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I must have slept through the past 30 odd years, where china went from a backwater, to global power.. Take something tiny, like the infamous wuhan lab that was experimenting with chimera viruses and who built it ? it was france. Our old alma mater, the military.

Take a look at the chinese PLA and see the amount of technology, that has been ripped from the west and russia ? it manufactured our tat, then created parallel companies and most infamously the humvee, which has a half dozen chinese copies.

Conclusions:-
All the while, your man Biden was one of those promoting china dialogue and the theory that china would come around to the west, via capitalism. Well that 1990s strategic thinking, is the exact consequence of where we are today and if that doesn't bother you, then it demonstrates how narrow your thinking is.

So long as the democrats talk tough on russia, the myopic russophobes prance around like expectant children.
You must get very tired moving those goalposts all day.

You said governments sold corporations to China. I asked you how they did this. You have no answer, because they don't. They can't.

The US government didn't lose its pharmaceutical national security by selling it to China. Big Pharma sold it in the pursuit of profits. It doesn't bother Big Pharma if America or Europe is incapable of producing certain vital drugs, or even simple stuff like Vitamin C. The companies still profit from Chinese production (until the Chinese steal everything and force them out). What applies to pharmaceuticals applies to many other sectors (steel, electronics, a wide range of consumer tat etc). They are like the Soviets - a veneer of free market capitalism overlaying the old Soviet/CCP totalitarianism.

I know the Chinese steal everything in sight. That is why there are so many Chinese students/spies in western universities and a decent chunk of their military spend goes on cybertheft. I know their business practices are predatory - steal, set up, sell cheap, price out the competition, corner market, sell expensive once you have a monopoly.

ALL commercial investment in China is made by private corporations seeking to make a bigger profit and thereby fulfil their one legal obligation of maximising returns for shareholders. The phenomenal growth of China has been down to decisions made in American and European boardrooms, not parliaments. Capital chases profit - it doesn't care if it comes from workers working 26 hour days, living in a box in the road and eating coal.

Looking at your last sentence are you sure you are not a Soviet troll? Maybe based in the Sunderland part of St. Petersburg?
 
No, that is me laughing.
The trials and tribulations of the NRA mean nothing to me.
The tears of fury of Trump Culties are merely amusing.
But do you think it wise to attack conservatives, especially in what is shaping up to be a very important election year?

2020 is not turning out to be one party versus another. It is now turning into a battle against radicals determined to destroy the very nature of society. Which adds quite a bit of motivation to put them down one way or another. But the ballot box certainly is the easiest method. Kicking another hornets nest with the election only three months away seems rather ill thought out.
 
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...a battle against radicals determined to destroy the very nature of society...
FFS.

There was a discussion on this very thread not many posts ago where it was posited - and you agreed - that the Democrats would be seen as ‘right of centre’ just about anywhere else.

At the time you seemed to agree but you t didn’t matter because America is ‘special’.

By definition, a ‘right of centre’ party is a (small c) conservative party. Hardly likely to ‘destroy the very nature of society’
 
FFS.

There was a discussion on this very thread not many posts ago where it was posited - and you agreed - that the Democrats would be seen as ‘right of centre’ just about anywhere else.

At the time you seemed to agree but you t didn’t matter because America is ‘special’.

By definition, a ‘right of centre’ party is a (small c) conservative party. Hardly likely to ‘destroy the very nature of society’
Trying to have his Mississippi Mud Cake and eat it too!
 

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But do you think it wise to attack conservatives, especially in what is shaping up to be a very important election year?

2020 is not turning out to be one party versus another. It is now turning into a battle against radicals determined to destroy the very nature of society. Which adds quite a bit of motivation to put them down one way or another. But the ballot box certainly is the easiest method. Kicking another hornets nest with the election only three months away seems rather ill thought out.
Very cryptic.

What do you mean by put them down.
 
Anybody fancy Thighland for a holiday?
Too sticky in this weather, with lots of flesh pressed together.

To cut the Hair Fuhrer a little slack though, remember these are the people that call Qatar 'Kutter' and use bizarre pronunciations like 'Worsestershire' instead of 'Woostersheer'.
 
But do you think it wise to attack conservatives, especially in what is shaping up to be a very important election year?

2020 is not turning out to be one party versus another. It is now turning into a battle against radicals determined to destroy the very nature of society. Which adds quite a bit of motivation to put them down one way or another. But the ballot box certainly is the easiest method. Kicking another hornets nest with the election only three months away seems rather ill thought out.
Makes no odds at all in the voting.
99% of NRA members probably vote Trump anyway.
The remaining few probably live in Democrat safe states.
The NY law might not like the NRA for its Trumpiness, but they are asking for it to be disbanded because it is not compliant with its financial responsibilities.
(Like certain Trump Organisation companies).
They aren't attacking Bubba and Cletus' Constitutional right to arm bears.
They are attacking an organisation whose executives have apparently been playing fast and loose with the membership fees.
All you need for that is a forensic accountant.

Cletus and Bubba can always join or form another shooters rights association.
One that doesn't rip off its membership.
 
FFS.

There was a discussion on this very thread not many posts ago where it was posited - and you agreed - that the Democrats would be seen as ‘right of centre’ just about anywhere else.

At the time you seemed to agree but you t didn’t matter because America is ‘special’.

By definition, a ‘right of centre’ party is a (small c) conservative party. Hardly likely to ‘destroy the very nature of society’
But that is not the narrative being formed by the more conservative elements of society. Attack certain things and you quickly become the Anti Christ.
 

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