The Trump Presidency...

The cover up is so that we don’t get to know about the alien technology being used by the overlords running the NWO.
That's just what they want you to think...
 
Again BULLSHIT

US NAVY report on the USS forrestal fire has shown lying assholes such as yourself have no shame or intelligence



US Navy Investigation report-




And how is it Medal of Honor awardees who were POW's with McCain speak so highly of him?
 

happyuk

War Hero
Trump's critics go ballistic precisely because he says anything to anyone, anywhere, anytime, without filters, euphemisms, equivocation. His enemies are shocked at his directness; his handlers worried that he needlessly is so explicit. He is innocent of the cunnings of diplomacy.

I agree with those who judge one’s temperament and ideology on what one does rather than what one is interpreted as saying. Trump says all sorts of things in his art-of-the-deal manner, and the media often report things he didn’t say as if he did. What Trump actually does is what counts. Take for example his supposed “Russian collusion.”

Trump has said many wild things about the Russians—most infamously joking that perhaps they could help find Hillary’s deleted emails. But what he has done far exceeds anything punitive from the Obama administration: he upped sanctions on Russia, got out of an asymmetrical agreement with Russia on short-range missiles, sold weapons to Ukraine, jawboned against the Germany-Russia natural gas deal, killed Russian mercenaries in Syria, crashed world oil and natural gas prices, the essence of the Russian economy, by green lighting horizontal drilling and fracking. He also upped the US defence budget and pressed NATO members to keep their promises—all to the annoyance of Putin.
 

Guns

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I have been reading about the Submarine service and the RN in particular. The amount of boats that went down with no known location or reason why is staggering. Due to advancements in underwater location some of these are now being found and the reason why they sunk better understood. I wonder if any of these appear on the tinfoil sites.

As to aircraft going down you only have to look at the number of aircraft that turn up in the jungle that went down in WW2 every so often.
Something like 400 aircraft went missing in Canada during WWII. A few turn up every now and again. Here's a couple of examples. The stories mention families being notified, remains being recovered and given military burials, and personal effects being returned to families. The video in the second one is worth watching by the way.
WW II plane lost for 70 years being raised from Lake Muskoka
WW II aircraft and remains recovered from Vancouver Island mountainside

A plane was lost in BC last month. So far as I know they still haven't found it.

It's very easy for a plane to disappear without a trace if it goes down in some place where there's nobody living there.
 

ipso_facto

Old-Salt
Again BULLSHIT

US NAVY report on the USS forrestal fire has shown lying assholes such as yourself have no shame or intelligence



US Navy Investigation report-




And how is it Medal of Honor awardees who were POW's with McCain speak so highly of him?
Woah, what crawled up your arse and died?! Unfortunately, McCain has such a tarnished reputation they attribute anything to him. That is not a good legacy to leave behind.

I'm interested in why he is such a controversial figure. Could you give me links to those who have spoken positively about him?

The rumours are he did not die, as officially reported, of brain cancer but was court-martialled, found guilty of treason and executed. This is based on a comment let slip by his daughter and also by a news caster on TV.
 
The rumours are he did not die, as officially reported, of brain cancer but was court-martialled, found guilty of treason and executed. This is based on a comment let slip by his daughter and also by a news caster on TV.
WTF are you talking about?

His health was a matter of public record.

One of the things that swung the vote against him. The concern that Sarah Pailin would only have been a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

The Americans don’t do secret courts martial of senators. Someone would notice.

FFS.
 

ipso_facto

Old-Salt
WTF are you talking about?

His health was a matter of public record.

One of the things that swung the vote against him. The concern that Sarah Pailin would only have been a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

The Americans don’t do secret courts martial of senators. Someone would notice.

FFS.
Don't be so naive.



 
Trump has said many wild things about the Russians—most infamously joking that perhaps they could help find Hillary’s deleted emails. But what he has done far exceeds anything punitive from the Obama administration: he upped sanctions on Russia, got out of an asymmetrical agreement with Russia on short-range missiles, sold weapons to Ukraine, jawboned against the Germany-Russia natural gas deal, killed Russian mercenaries in Syria, crashed world oil and natural gas prices, the essence of the Russian economy, by green lighting horizontal drilling and fracking. He also upped the US defence budget and pressed NATO members to keep their promises—all to the annoyance of Putin.
Two sides to every story.

'The public dissonance between President Trump and his top national security team over Russia reached new heights in the past week.

'Asked on Tuesday if he had mentioned reports of Russian-paid bounties for killing U.S. troops in Afghanistan to President Vladimir Putin during any of the several phone calls they have had since the charge emerged, Trump said no. It was “fake news,” he said. “I have never discussed it with him. They always bring up Russia, Russia, Russia,” Trump complained in the interview with Axios.

'On Wednesday, as Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper and military leaders announced plans to withdraw 12,000 troops from Germany to better position the NATO alliance for “deterrence of Russia,” Trump offered a different explanation. It was all about payback against NATO ally Germany for years of ripping off the United States on defense and trade, he told reporters at the White House. “Why would we keep all of our troops there?” He made no mention of Russia.

'On Thursday, Democratic lawmakers at a Senate hearing questioned Secretary of State Mike Pompeo over the president’s dismissal of the bounty report, the troop withdrawal, and the cutting of a European defense initiative budget. In response, Pompeo boasted of U.S. lethal weapons shipped to Ukraine, sanctions against “more than 360 Russian targets,” a 2018 U.S. strike against attacking Russian mercenaries in Syria that killed hundreds, and a doubling of proposed funds to counter Kremlin disinformation campaigns. “We’re the toughest administration ever on Russia,” he said.

'Despite the tough talk from those below him, Trump has been accused of being soft on Russia, and particularly on Putin, since he began his first presidential campaign. He’s an “absolute leader,” Trump said of the Russian in a 2015 tweet, “so highly respected within his own country and beyond. The compliment was among many that would follow during Trump’s candidacy and presidency — on Twitter, in interviews, and standing by Putin’s side in a news conference after their 2018 one-on-one meeting in Helsinki. It was there that Trump sided with Putin’s denials against U.S. intelligence conclusions that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election.

'Those who think there is strategic thought behind Trump’s praise of Putin are missing the point, said a former senior administration official. “They’re thinking about a conventional politician who cares about U.S. foreign policy” and has a historical knowledge and understanding of the U.S.-Russia relationship, said the former official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to offer a candid assessment. Trump “doesn’t want to be kicked around by the Russians,” but he does want to “cozy up to Putin,” the former official said. “If Russia didn’t exist, and Putin was the badass leader of — pick a country — [Trump] would still want to be seen with him.”

'To the extent Trump “undermines U.S. policy,” it is not necessarily because of his lauding of Putin, but “because there is no coherent policy,” the former official said. “There is no devolution to fill out the details of the kind of deals he wants to make.” The result is what is widely seen among experts as tactical responses to Russian actions. Many of those responses, from sanctions to combating disinformation, have been initiated or promoted by Congress, which often finds bipartisan agreement on Kremlin perfidy.

'Graham, the former NSC Russia director, thinks that Trump’s rejection of the bounty charge — in which Russia military intelligence reportedly paid Taliban-linked militants to kill U.S. troops — is a less than pertinent example of the president’s reluctance to confront the Russian leader. “I worked for a president who didn’t like to deliver bad news to Putin,” he said. “But you can also make the argument that unless it’s been thoroughly raised at lower levels, it doesn’t make any sense to raise it at a higher level. All you’re going to do is get a denial from Putin. Ultimately our goal is to shift Russian behavior in a way that is much more favorable to advance our national interest,” Graham said. “Has anything that the administration has done . . . changed Russian behavior in any way favorable to the United States? I’d be hard put to say that it has.”


 
I'm interested in why he is such a controversial figure. Could you give me links to those who have spoken positively about him?
On a speak as you find, which I understand is what you are looking for............... I once belonged for a few years to a department, part of which hosted American former POW's around a UK circuit.

UK military students on Survival ( SERE ) courses were presented to lectures from these gents, several of whom had been incarcerated in the 'Hanoi Hilton' alongside the late Senator McCain ( RIP ).
All of these gentlemen used the brutalisation of John McCain as an outstanding example of fortitude and strength in withstanding physical assault. Singled out as a result of his father's role as an Admiral, he became an exceptional candidate for torture leading to his likely use in the North's propaganda machine.

Do I believe that he "co-operated " with the demands the North Vietnam imposed on him? Of course he did, as with a few hundred other long term prisoners, but not for one minute did he compromise his integrity or leadership in that environment for his personal gain. An outstanding man in all.

Edit to add - " We judge ourselves on our intentions and others on their behaviour " as you so amply demonstrate.
 
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Of all of your ludicrous posts that one really takes the biscuit (in a very well contested field).

Why don't you ask yourself a few simple questions. If he was a "songbird" why was he repeatedly tortured? Why did he not go for early release when it was offered?

How long would you last if you were in his position? Five and a half years? You would be squealing for mummy after five and a half minutes.

You are a bit of a disgrace really.
 
Of all of your ludicrous posts that one really takes the biscuit (in a very well contested field).

Why don't you ask yourself a few simple questions. If he was a "songbird" why was he repeatedly tortured? Why did he not go for early release when it was offered?

How long would you last if you were in his position? Five and a half years? You would be squealing for mummy after five and a half minutes.

You are a bit of a disgrace really.
Dipso has himself in a cognitive loop.

He worships Trump.
McCain loathed Trump.
Therefore, there MUST be something wrong with McCain.
So, Dipso goes looking for evidence that there is something wrong with McCain.
Some other Trump worshipping dingbat manufactures something.
Dipso finds it and is confirmed in his belief.

So instead of following the reality, that McCain was a brave man and officer who simply hated Trump and who died of a progressive cancer, Dipso buys into a constructed mirror image universe where McCain is the villain of the piece, secretly executed by the shadow State because Trump is the Sacred God-Emperor and can do no wrong.

Unfortunately, Trump is supposed to be FIGHTING AGAINST the non existant Deep State, so if the Deep State did execute McCain as one of Trump's enemies, it would be doing Trump's work.
So it is on Trump's side.
Therefore Trump is a creature of the Deep State fighting against open Government and legal authority.
Which therefore makes Trump a traitor.
Which means that... Err... Dipso is supporting a traitor.

In short, Dipso is a loony.
 
'To the extent Trump “undermines U.S. policy,”
This is a particularly interesting quote, and revealing of the mindset of many US government officials and their hangers on, who seem to forget that the President *sets* US foreign policy (Whether they like it or not)

In fact the whole thing is very reminiscent of what we’ve seen over here with the civil service repeatedly trying to Brexit into the long grass.
 

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