The Trump Presidency...

Obama like Blair, had likable personas, but both men were vacuous suits hussling the foolish into voting for them, on promises that things can only get better and delivering absolutely nothing of the sort.
Disagree about Blair. Like him or loathe him ( and I couldn't stand the fecker) this was a very different country in a lot of ways once he, Mandelson, Cameron, Brown and the rest of the NL g gang had finished with it.

I think for Obama he had lots of good intentions but the Republicans managed to delay and disrupt him at every turn.

The job of POTUS seems to be basically that of chief cat herder.

In our system, under normal jogging, there is a presumption that the party in power will eventually gets its way.

I say normal because it all went Pete Tong over Brexit, but that was because Parliament ended up in charge of deciding policy, which is not really what it is there for.
 
Disagree about Blair. Like him or loathe him ( and I couldn't stand the fecker) this was a very different country in a lot of ways once he, Mandelson, Cameron, Brown and the rest of the NL g gang had finished with it.

I think for Obama he had lots of good intentions but the Republicans managed to delay and disrupt him at every turn.

The job of POTUS seems to be basically that of chief cat herder.

In our system, under normal jogging, there is a presumption that the party in power will eventually gets its way.

I say normal because it all went Pete Tong over Brexit, but that was because Parliament ended up in charge of deciding policy, which is not really what it is there for.
As a middle class libertiarian/conservative - What was a good intention? Because life/business was a lot more expensive for me.
 

OneTenner

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There's something to be said for the view that Trump wasn't the best candidate, but the least-worst - in either party.
The US political system needs to have a big realignment if that's the best they can muster.
Even Ronnie Regan was more credible.

'Leader of the free world'? from what i've seen, most would struggle to lead a horse to water.
 
He is feeding his Deplorable fanbase, a disturbing number of which want to destroy the United States in favour of some Mad Max anarchy fantasy where the strong and heavily armed prosper, and the uppity nigra and unarmed soft Liberal cucks are dominated by manly White Christian men with the guns the Constitution allows them to carry.
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Trump is so evil he's ordered the CRS to beat the shit out of BLM protesters and tear gas them in Paris tonight. That nice Mon. Macron is going to be so cross when he hears about it.

 

Helm

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Trump is so evil he's ordered the CRS to beat the shit out of BLM protesters and tear gas them in Paris tonight. That nice Mon. Macron is going to be so cross when he hears about it.

Well, the French did help them seize the airports back in 1776, so fair's fair.
 

OneTenner

LE
Book Reviewer
Trump is so evil he's ordered the CRS to beat the shit out of BLM protesters and tear gas them in Paris tonight. That nice Mon. Macron is going to be so cross when he hears about it.

Pour encourager les autres
 
Pour encourager les autres
Indeed. I have no issue with robust riot policing. Just seems odd when Macron does it there's nothing to see here, Orange Man does it and he's Hitlers evil brother.
 
Why Trump gets bad press coverage.

Optics. Lack of leadership, Inflammatory tweets, lack of empathy, blaming one side only, unable to recognize and speak to the peaceful protesters, unable to apply separate rhetoric to the nut jobs that turn up at all protests, lights out at the whitzetag, hiding in a bunker, pussy 'look at tough guy me' photo op, being a general twat to anyone that doesn't kiss his fat orange ass, presiding over a one party country, calling everyone else scum of the earth, being an absolute a-hole to the msm but crying like a baby when they don't kiss his fat orange ass. Apart from that.........
 
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Trump Cannot Deescalate
Monday night was his first stab at it. He proved the protesters’ point.

“The spilling of innocent blood is an offense to humanity and a crime against God,” Donald Trump breathily intoned on Monday in that sing-songy tone he sometimes affects when he’s groping for statesmanship. He said this immediately after law enforcement had—on White House orders, and on television—teargassed, clubbed, and thrown flash bangs at innocent protesters peacefully exercising their First Amendment rights. The contrast between the action and the speech was Trump in a nutshell. “I am your president of law and order and an ally of all peaceful protesters,” he crowed, minutes after Americans had watched the show Trump and his puppet, Attorney General William Barr, had prepared for them as a sample of the violence he has planned for the nation. There was an ecstatic quality to Trump’s threat to “deploy the national guard in sufficient numbers that we dominate the streets.” Trump—who praised China’s “power of strength” for its handling of Tiananmen square, and who wanted tanks on the Mall for his Fourth of July Celebration last year—might finally get his wish: an occupied America that crushes anyone who’s mean to him or his supporters (which include the police) under his heel.

Monday night was his first stab at it. The country is roiling with anger and grief at clear proof that out-of-control police are attacking, abusing, and executing unresisting black men and women. This is likely a radicalizing moment for many white Americans too, who are finally seeing firsthand what contact with an unrestrained police force really looks like. In the midst of this, Trump’s strategy was to send law enforcement officers to rain blows down on peaceful protesters and news outlets with no warning. (Park Police are now trying to deny aspects of this—one source claimed no tear gas was used despite video footage posted by journalists showing it and firsthand testimony from clergy.) And so it happened: Americans already horrified by scene after scene of out-of-control police attacking people and arresting journalists even while they’re broadcasting watched as Americans’ rights to free speech and freedom of the press were openly violated by the president.

It’s worth noting that it was less than a week ago that Trump complained that Twitter, by appending a label to his tweet clarifying that it contained misinformation, was “completely stifling FREE SPEECH.” And yet now, police seem to be attacking obviously compliant journalists and protesters on camera, clearly unconcerned that they’re being filmed even during a nationwide crisis over their misconduct. This suggests a force so entirely convinced of its impunity that it no longer feels the need to conceal wrongdoing. Americans, and indeed the world, have now been treated to footage of a cameraman and reporter for an Australian news station, for example, being savagely beaten by federal police on live TV.

It was a distressing spectacle. Even as we all know how Trump is—vindictive, delicate, a basket of ego-wounds salved by the applause he gets for abusing others—what was concerning on Monday was how this manifested. There was none of the normal whining. On Monday, Trump seemed utterly enthralled by the glories of presidential power. “As we speak, I am dispatching thousands and thousands of heavily armed soldiers, military personnel, and law enforcement offices to stop the rioting, looting, vandalism assaults and the wanton destruction of property,” he said. Nowhere in this fanatical dispatch, which used words like “safety” and “security” as euphemisms for the military invasion of American cities, did Trump address the terrible and obvious root cause of American unrest: extreme brutality on the part of law enforcement. Trump can only escalate.

To cause more police brutality in the midst of a protest against police brutality is perfectly consistent with Trump’s actions in power. Trump defaults to white innocence and black guilt. He told cops not to be “too nice” in 2017 and pardoned Sheriff Joe Arpaio—one of the more abusive monsters in the carceral system, famous for torturing the people in his care. He advocated for the Central Park Five to remain incarcerated despite their proven innocence. Of course he’s expanding America’s two-tier system of policing. A right-winger’s fever dream of carte-blanche permissiveness, Trump has clarified that there will be no limits at all on what his supporters can do in public spaces—invade government buildings armed to the teeth, scream at police, defy local government, attack fellow citizens—while openly and gleefully bludgeoning opponents who protest peacefully.

It’s dull work, pointing out Trumpian double standards. But it must be done when a so-called president is easing his wounded ego with autocratic fantasies he has both the power and inclination to execute. Yesterday, Trump confirmed with tear gas what he has already amply proved: Trump does not believe Americans he doesn’t like should have free speech. His administration has retaliated against whistleblowers and witnesses who testified to his failed extortion scheme with Ukraine, violating their First Amendment rights. Colin Kaepernick might express some surprise at Trump calling himself an “ally of peaceful protesters,” since Trump made it his objective to annihilate Colin Kaepernick’s career because he dared to peacefully protest police violence. Not content to rest there, Trump pressured the NFL to force players to stand during the national anthem and fine them if they didn’t; that’s how much he wanted to punish black men determined to draw attention to a cause most Americans back then didn’t understand as a problem. That’s how badly he wanted to signal to police that he was on their side. Trump did everything he could to run interference for abusive cops and deafen his supporters to Kaepernick’s message about police abuse—a message that might, if heeded, have produced police reforms that could have saved George Floyd’s life. Trump’s track record on this is clear: he could ignore peaceful liberal marches because they produced no visible change, but there is no form of effective protest he will tolerate without lashing out in defensive savagery.

Black people are being killed by police who are not held accountable. That is the issue. Trump will try to muddy it just as he distorted Kaepernick’s message, which he repeatedly mischaracterized as protesting “the flag” or “the military.” And Trump will call for justice for George Floyd, as he did yesterday, while perpetuating, on television, the culture of criminal abuse that led to his death. People are being abused and killed by police who are never held accountable. That is the issue. There are two justice systems. That is the issue. Black citizens get extrajudicially killed for selling loose cigarettes or paying with a forged twenty-dollar bills while murderous officers at the very worst get fired from one department so they can be hired by another. That is the issue. Faced with a nation literally on fire over this monstrous and undeniable injustice that the nation refuses to solve, Trump opted to reenact, on camera, the two-tier system that produced it.

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An intriguing op ed, and a situation I hadn't considered possible, but reading the article, maybe a runner come November.

'What if Trump loses the election in November, fails to secure his second term, but still refuses to leave the White House? What happens then?
The answer for you Skipped and disappointment for the salivating truppits.

So it’s the morning of Jan. 20, 2021. Trump doesn’t meet President-elect Joe Biden and his wife in the White House driveway, nor does he attend the inauguration on Capitol Hill. Instead, he proclaims, as he has many times by this point, that the election was a fraud (he has set the stage for this with his false claims about mail-in ballots), and at noon, instead of acceding to the transfer of power, Trump proclaims that the swearing in was FAKE NEWS and that he remains the president.

Here is what would happen next.

On the dot of noon, the nuclear codes, which currently allow Trump to order and authenticate a nuclear attack, expire. The officer who has been following him around everywhere with the “football”—which, contrary to popular belief, is not a button or a palm print but rather a book filled with various launch codes—leaves. If Trump and whatever lackeys stay with him prevent the officer from leaving, another officer, holding a backup football, would join Biden at the inauguration ceremony.

By the same token, the entire U.S. military establishment will pivot away from ex-President Trump and salute President Biden. The principle of civilian control is hammered into American officers from the time they’re cadets—and the 20th Amendment of the Constitution states, “The terms of the President and Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January”—no ifs, ands, or buts.

If Trump orders the military to do anything, they will refuse his order. If any officers obey his order—say, to circle the White House to keep him in power—they would certainly be tried and convicted on charges of mutiny and sedition, and they would know this before taking the leap.

Meanwhile, the Secret Service will abandon Trump, as they do every president whose term is up, except for a small detail assigned to protect him and his family for the rest of their lives.

Overseas, foreign leaders will cut off relations with the U.S. ambassadors in their capitals and await instructions from Biden or his acting secretary of state.

Meanwhile, Biden’s acting attorney general will have drawn up arrest warrants for Donald J. Trump and anyone who remains at his side on charges—at minimum—of criminal trespassing. If Trump calls on the armed forces or militias or the nation’s sheriffs to come defend him, he might also be charged with incitement or insurrection.

If any of Trump’s aides or Cabinet officers continue to take his orders, they too could face criminal charges and, in any case, would have a hard time finding respectable employment after the pretend monarch is taken away in handcuffs.

If armed militiamen and sheriffs rally to the White House and they refuse to let U.S. marshals through the gates, a small contingent of Secret Service or the National Guard could be called up to enforce the law. If that doesn’t work, a few M1 tanks rolling down Pennsylvania Avenue should make the would-be rebels flee. It would be terrible if the standoff came to this, but Commander in Chief Biden would have this option available, if necessary.

In other words, Trump could hole himself up in the Oval Office, but the Oval Office would very soon be cut off from all power. He would have no choice but to give up. It is hard to imagine, even in this time of hard-to-imagine things happening, that a single Supreme Court justice or more than a handful of congressional Republicans—and probably not a single member of the GOP leadership, not even Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (who, depending on how Election Day had gone, might be downgraded to minority leader on Inauguration Day)—would stand up for Trump’s blatantly unconstitutional ploy to stay in power.

The next 7½ months of Trump’s presidency will likely be rife with tension and scandals and outrage, no matter how the election goes. There will be plenty to deal with for all of us who care about the future of the United States as a nation, a people, and a democracy.

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The answer for you Skipped and disappointment for the salivating truppits.

So it’s the morning of Jan. 20, 2021. Trump doesn’t meet President-elect Joe Biden and his wife in the White House driveway, nor does he attend the inauguration on Capitol Hill. Instead, he proclaims, as he has many times by this point, that the election was a fraud (he has set the stage for this with his false claims about mail-in ballots), and at noon, instead of acceding to the transfer of power, Trump proclaims that the swearing in was FAKE NEWS and that he remains the president.

Here is what would happen next.

On the dot of noon, the nuclear codes, which currently allow Trump to order and authenticate a nuclear attack, expire. The officer who has been following him around everywhere with the “football”—which, contrary to popular belief, is not a button or a palm print but rather a book filled with various launch codes—leaves. If Trump and whatever lackeys stay with him prevent the officer from leaving, another officer, holding a backup football, would join Biden at the inauguration ceremony.

By the same token, the entire U.S. military establishment will pivot away from ex-President Trump and salute President Biden. The principle of civilian control is hammered into American officers from the time they’re cadets—and the 20th Amendment of the Constitution states, “The terms of the President and Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January”—no ifs, ands, or buts.

If Trump orders the military to do anything, they will refuse his order. If any officers obey his order—say, to circle the White House to keep him in power—they would certainly be tried and convicted on charges of mutiny and sedition, and they would know this before taking the leap.

Meanwhile, the Secret Service will abandon Trump, as they do every president whose term is up, except for a small detail assigned to protect him and his family for the rest of their lives.

Overseas, foreign leaders will cut off relations with the U.S. ambassadors in their capitals and await instructions from Biden or his acting secretary of state.

Meanwhile, Biden’s acting attorney general will have drawn up arrest warrants for Donald J. Trump and anyone who remains at his side on charges—at minimum—of criminal trespassing. If Trump calls on the armed forces or militias or the nation’s sheriffs to come defend him, he might also be charged with incitement or insurrection.

If any of Trump’s aides or Cabinet officers continue to take his orders, they too could face criminal charges and, in any case, would have a hard time finding respectable employment after the pretend monarch is taken away in handcuffs.

If armed militiamen and sheriffs rally to the White House and they refuse to let U.S. marshals through the gates, a small contingent of Secret Service or the National Guard could be called up to enforce the law. If that doesn’t work, a few M1 tanks rolling down Pennsylvania Avenue should make the would-be rebels flee. It would be terrible if the standoff came to this, but Commander in Chief Biden would have this option available, if necessary.

In other words, Trump could hole himself up in the Oval Office, but the Oval Office would very soon be cut off from all power. He would have no choice but to give up. It is hard to imagine, even in this time of hard-to-imagine things happening, that a single Supreme Court justice or more than a handful of congressional Republicans—and probably not a single member of the GOP leadership, not even Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (who, depending on how Election Day had gone, might be downgraded to minority leader on Inauguration Day)—would stand up for Trump’s blatantly unconstitutional ploy to stay in power.

The next 7½ months of Trump’s presidency will likely be rife with tension and scandals and outrage, no matter how the election goes. There will be plenty to deal with for all of us who care about the future of the United States as a nation, a people, and a democracy.

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That reads like a furiously masturbating liberal fantasy ghost written by an even shiter version of Tom Clancy.
 
Maybe it was, I posted it as a lighthearted take on the rules not as a law thesis.
 

BigT

LE
As a middle class libertiarian/conservative - What was a good intention? Because life/business was a lot more expensive for me.
Do you think it may have had something to do with the economy he inherited, you know that Global recession that America gifted most of the world at the end of G W Bush's Presidency.
 
Maybe it was, I posted it as a lighthearted take on the rules not as a law thesis.
It wasn't lighthearted. It was utter toss. Regardless of who they are aimed at these 'it's 2024 and momentum stasi storm the palace and install Corbyn on the throne' fantasy bollocks are all pathetic.
 
It wasn't lighthearted. It was utter toss. Regardless of who they are aimed at these 'it's 2024 and momentum stasi storm the palace and install Corbyn on the throne' fantasy bollocks are all pathetic.
Well bite on this light hearted article then.
2020 ELECTIONS
Voter Optimism Hits New Low of Trump Presidency Amid Pandemic and Protests
31% say the country is headed in the right direction, while 69% say its on the wrong track.

  • Latest dips in optimism were driven by independents and women.
  • 85% of black voters say the country is on the wrong track — unchanged from the previous week.8

Not bad going for another lighthearted look at Americas Greatest President.
 
Well bite on this light hearted article then.
2020 ELECTIONS
Voter Optimism Hits New Low of Trump Presidency Amid Pandemic and Protests
31% say the country is headed in the right direction, while 69% say its on the wrong track.

  • Latest dips in optimism were driven by independents and women.
  • 85% of black voters say the country is on the wrong track — unchanged from the previous week.8

Not bad going for another lighthearted look at Americas Greatest President.
I couldn't give a shit who America votes for. Just hate rioters. Good luck to whoever wins the next election.
 
I couldn't give a shit who America votes for. Just hate rioters. Good luck to whoever wins the next election.
Believe it or not I feel the same way. Rioters are a thieving bunch of tossers.
 
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