The Trump Presidency...

No basically what they are saying is you'd better have the goods on him if you want us to convict, just wetting yourselves because he won in 2016 over the cu nt hillary isn't enough.

Dictator? oh you prince of hysteria, do You mean like sending (via Executive Order 9066) 120,000+ Americans to concentration camps? because he's done nothing even close to that level of dictatorship, But do soil yourself sweetie while imagining the big bad trump under your bed .

Defy Subpoenas? Eric Holder as AG did the same thing

To most Americans he doesn't figure into their day to day lives (neither did his predecessors) Over half the people I work with in NYC would be termed confirmed LW(US version) and dont care about his Impeachment

Tell you what though you feel so strongly go form a Majjor Atlee company to fight him. you too can be the next Tom Wintringham
Get off your high horse you numpty and give yourself a yank...
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This is about the gradual decline of American Democracy. American politics have descended into a "Nurr, Nurr, na Nurr, Nurr - you did it to us so we are going to do it to you!" I did say in my post if America wants to move to a dictatorship then fill your boots but you need to look beyond the fat orange idiot because once you step over the line in giving a President absolute power and immunity without the checks and balances from Congress you are on that slippery slope downhill to a dictatorship. I just wonder if you truppits would grant the same immunity to a Democrat President somehow I doubt your blinkered souls would be happy with that idea.
 
What you sew, so shall you reap.:p

'President Donald Trump’s border wall is facing a surprising new legal hurdle down in Texas: an obscure legislative provision crafted by House Republicans in 2014 when the GOP was targeting then-President Barack Obama’s budget powers.

'The amendment, carried forward into current law, has resurfaced with a vengeance in El Paso, Texas. U.S District Court Judge David Briones has been quoting back its words in a series of rulings against Trump’s decision to take $3.6 billion from military construction projects to expedite his wall.'


 
Get off your high horse you numpty and give yourself a yank...
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This is about the gradual decline of American Democracy. American politics have descended into a "Nurr, Nurr, na Nurr, Nurr - you did it to us so we are going to do it to you!" I did say in my post if America wants to move to a dictatorship then fill your boots but you need to look beyond the fat orange idiot because once you step over the line in giving a President absolute power and immunity without the checks and balances from Congress you are on that slippery slope downhill to a dictatorship. I just wonder if you truppits would grant the same immunity to a Democrat President somehow I doubt your blinkered souls would be happy with that idea.
American democracy occurred on November 8th 2016 when Trump was elected POTUS.

If you believed in democracy you would field a better candidate for 2020 and use democracy to remove Trump .
 
American democracy occurred on November 8th 2016 when Trump was elected POTUS.

If you believed in democracy you would field a better candidate for 2020 and use democracy to remove Trump .
Don't want to burst your orange bubble but I won't be fielding any candidate and I really don't care either. Skipped Once just posted a 'what goes around comes around' article and that is all I am trying to say, If the GOP give the President unlimited powers and immunity then don't cry when it comes back to bite them on the ass. But you and I know they will.
 
Trade has not much to do with health care other than the meds the NHS are aready getting from Pharma for 1/10 the cost we are paying in the US, in effect, all of US subsidizing your care. Weird how deep those socialist roots can run, eh?

And, have you ever used an Emergency Room at a hospital in the US? Stuffed full of doleys and their kids with sniffles clogging up the system getting their free cough syrup, band-aids and biff chits, instead of going to their GP for free on the same medicare/medicaid/universal card. Same shit as NHS just a different name for the pipe to the trough. At least our ambulances show up in a few minutes, and we don't have to wait forever for a specialist appointment, and those with money and insurance can find urgent care in minutes, every handful of blocks, needed or not, for $100.
Trade means allowing businesses to do business.

At the moment there are restrictive practices within the health insurance industry. Ask me how I know........I'll tell you anyway: When we moved to the US I contacted my corporate private health insurance provider in the UK to ask if we could port the policy to the US. I was told that there were restrictions in place that allowed us to only continue with the provider for 12 calendar months in the US before changing to a US insurance provider. The other factor was that the insurance went up from 150 quid a month to 1200 quid a month.

Pharma has nothing to do with it. If you actually do some research on the subject you will find that around 1% of the cost of a drug is actual manufacturers production costs. That research will also show you that around 70% of the cost of a drug to the patient (insurance company) in the US is pharmacy, or hospital profit.

The well understood reason that drugs and mdicines are cheaper in more or less all other countries than the US is centralised purchasing and procurement. The US is made up of lots of individual practitioners, small groups of specialists and small hospital groups. Consequently they only have the negotiating power and clout that comes with a small group. Whereas in the UK the NHS is a national organisation and wields its clout accordingly for the 60 million+ customers it provides for. It is the same across the rest of europe with govt encouraged pricing schemes, monopoly and pricing controls.

The profit uber alles culture in the US has pushed health and pharma costs well out of the hands of those low on the totem. Thanks to people like Martin Shkereli:

In September 2015, Shkreli received widespread criticism when Turing obtained the manufacturing license for the antiparasitic drug Daraprim and raised its price by a factor of 56 (from US$13.5 to $750 per pill), leading him to be referred to by the media as "the most hated man in America" and "Pharma Bro".[11][12][13]

From Wiki: Martin Shkreli - Wikipedia

As you rightly say same shit different name, almost: Dr's and hospital trousering thousands of $$ in the US and to be honest the quality of service and care is below that supplied in many NHS establishments. I have experienced no quicker service for my $250 appointment than I receive in the UK, and my $5 a tablet drug is the same as my 10p a tablet drug in the UK. I did not travel to Germany for my disc replacement surgery for no reason: US cost $150,000, plus all the aftercare costs; German cost around E19,000 including all aftercare.........and that is before we start looking at the skill and experience of the Dr's involved.
 
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I understand that the elections are in November 2020, but it is December 13th 2019 and Bloomberg for Prez adverts have been running since last night, going to be a long fcuking 11 months......
He has spent a fortune in TV ads apparently.
 
It seems that the Republican Party's crowd estimation skills haven't improved since Trump's inauguration. I guess the protesters don't get the irony of 'Stop the madness'.



'The official Twitter of account of the Republican National Committee was buried in mockery after hyping up a video of anti-impeachment protesters in Youngstown, Ohio, where it appears only a handful of people showed up.

'According to the tweet, “Ohioans are sick and tired of the Democrats’ impeachment charade. It’s time to STOP THE MADNESS!” However, in the video from WKBN, which can be seen below, few people chose to show up for the cameras. As one commenter noted with tongue-in-cheek, “Thought Ohio had a few more people than that.”


 
I’m not sure I understand the economics underlying that statement. I don’t see how the pricing/cost of US pharmaceuticals subsidises the NHS.

Firstly, the U.K. and Europe have large indigenous pharmaceutical sectors so the drugs they produce have nothing to do with the US.

I imagine any drugs we buy from the US are sold at a profit by the manufacturer. I doubt if Big Pharma does freebies.

In any case it appears to be more of a U.K.->US one-way street. US pharmaceutical exports to the U.K. hardly register but US imports of U.K. pharmaceuticals count as a “top import category” ($5 billion in 2018 - USTR data). That will include drugs manufactured in the U.K. by US companies based here (Pfizer, for example. So you should thank the Brits for subsidising the invention of Sildenafil which supports millions of American stiffies).

In any case, the NHS has zero drug manufacturing capability and is as much at the mercy of rapacious Big Pharma as American consumers.

There is no subsidy of U.K. drugs by the US.

If you pay ten times the price we pay (all my drugs are free, to me at least, so I couldn’t GAF) you need to have a word with your Pharmas as they are screwing you.

As this is the Trump thread here are the facts, from the Executive Office Of The President: United Kingdom | United States Trade Representative
The NHS buys meds. UK taxes pay for NHS.

There isn't a Big Pharma coy that isn't a multi-national.. Except the small research coys that will be bought by one of the big boys as soon as they develop something useful.

The US is where they extract their money to make their biggest profits.

Everywhere else is where they sell the drugs cheap to "socialized" medicine.

This is the hidden subsidy.

We are paying for your meds low cost to your socialized system. If Big Pharma could not draw big profits from somewhere, they will not bother to produce, And you get to enjoy your system that will give you "free" medical care, if you can last til your appointment, and then another few months til your specialist appointment, while we get shown your system as a shining example that we should adopt, whilst we are already paying for it.

If the US ever went to straight up "the good kind of" socialist medicine, then that is another 360 million people and a country that will not be paying the bill for the rest of the world. So, the smaller populations of Saudi Arabia and Canada will have to pick up the bill to keep the system going. See, they are paying between 30% to 50% of what the US does now, depending on the drug. I doubt that Big Pharma can raise the costs in SA and Canada enough to support the load when the silent majority of the US gets too old and too tired of paying too much and says "OK Snowflakes, we'll sign up for the freebies you are pushing for."

Are there any large countries that don't subsidize the system? Sure, at least 2 huge socialist countries that are too expensive for their citizen's average wage to support the meds, China and India. Their costs are around 25-30% of the US cost, but it will take every penny of their poor citizen's money if they need a "real" medicine, and in China that will include old fashioned porcine insulin instead of modern humalog.

The great majority of the drugs bought by the US are imported, but the US is also told not to self import or engage in medical tourism because of lack of quality control and poor manufacturing processes (for exactly the same pills from exactly the same factories).

Once the US caves into socialized medicine and isn't subsidizing the global drug makers, everyone will end up paying for real meds where everything is "free."

Pfizer is a US Company... how hard are they "putting the screws" to the UK?

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Ah... right. Your's is "free" so you don't GAF.

What happens when we decide we want ours to be just as "free" as yours and go full on "socialist single payer" with no "free-market" pricing and government price fixing telling the manufacturer what the government will pay?

Don't be a moron.
 
American democracy occurred on November 8th 2016 when Trump was elected POTUS.

If you believed in democracy you would field a better candidate for 2020 and use democracy to remove Trump .
Rather like playing a second hand of cards with the chap you just found out was cheating though?
 
He has spent a fortune in TV ads apparently.
He can afford it with a guesstimated networth of $56Billion - he makes Trump look like the village pauper. Added to which Trump has pissed of the likes of Bezos who would also probably be happy to substantially contribute to anyone who will potentially oust Trump.
 
He can afford it with a guesstimated networth of $56Billion - he makes Trump look like the village pauper. Added to which Trump has pissed of the likes of Bezos who would also probably be happy to substantially contribute to anyone who will potentially oust Trump.
Hopefully, it’s all money wasted ;) Let him blow millions now trying to get up there with sanders and warren - I doubt he has national electability.
 
Rather like playing a second hand of cards with the chap you just found out was cheating though?
More like continuing to play at the house's table because there is no where else to play, while they are banking 9/10ths of the pot, and making up shite and blaming everyone's losses to the house on the player with the worst hairstyle.

And let's not forget that Bloomberg owns a majority stake of the house, and has already dictated what was and shall be from hence forth dealt.

The funniest part is junior puppet master Cenk Uygur, getting smacked by his own kind trying to "earn" a seat at the kids table in the back.
 
Trump family double-standards; who would have believed such a thing.

'First lady Melania Trump was blasted online for refusing to stand up to her husband’s attacks on teenager Greta Thunberg, who has become a climate activist demanding a cleaner future for her generation. The first lady’s campaign “Be Best,” is supposed to fight bullying, but when it comes to the bullying by her husband, Mrs. Trump has a blind spot. She explained in a tweet Friday that since Thunberg is an activist she deserves whatever she gets. By contrast, no one can mention her son with the president.

'Mrs. Trump and the president’s children lashed out at a constitutional law professor for using Barron Trump’s name as an example of the president’s power. “He can name his son Barron he cannot make him a baron.” The first lady called it “an attack on a minor child.” The professor later apologized for daring to say the president’s son’s name in public. But when Trump raged at Thunberg for beating him for TIME’s Person of the Year, it wasn’t considered bullying, something the internet called absurd. #BeBest began trending nationally as the first lady was ripped for refusing to follow her own example'


13 year old Barron Trump isn't a 16 year old, seeking public attention by throwing temper tantrums in effort to be an icon of understanding and change, is he?
 
13 year old Barron Trump isn't a 16 year old, seeking public attention by throwing temper tantrums in effort to be an icon of understanding and change, is he?
No, no it’s exactly the same.

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13 year old Barron Trump isn't a 16 year old, seeking public attention by throwing temper tantrums in effort to be an icon of understanding and change, is he?
I genuinely hope the young lad grows up healthy and happy.

Let's face it, the odds are against it with a father like that.

Which is a shame.
 
I genuinely hope the young lad grows up healthy and happy.

Let's face it, the odds are against it with a father like that.

Which is a shame.
I am sure that the elder Trump is as well placed on "the spectrum" as Saint Greta.
I am also sure that it is more a question the results of the ill guided spew of vitriol against him, than it is a question of his character.
 
I am sure that the elder Trump is as well placed on "the spectrum" as Saint Greta.
I am also sure that it is more a question the results of the ill guided spew of vitriol against him, than it is a question of his character.
I do like the cult of martyrdom that has grown up around POTUS.

 
I do like the cult of martyrdom that has grown up around POTUS.

You, no doubt, see no parallels in the socialist shite being thrown at any "opposition" on your side of the pond, not even the fiction created by former MI6 operatives on behalf of members of your HOL and their organizations on the request of, and sold to, HRC as "evidence" to use against the terrible fascist/perverted/Russian tool Trump...
 
I sympathise , here's a handy image should POTUS wish to photo shop his head onto St Sebastian.

He of course being patron of soldiers, athletes and those who desire a saintly death.

Sebastian not Trump.

Though I believe the miracle of the feeding of the multitude from one family bucket is being investigated as his first triumph, so beautification may yet be possible.
 

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