The TA and The Falklands War

Discussion in 'Army Reserve' started by RustyH, Jun 10, 2013.

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  1. Hello,

    Apologies for double posting in here and the Military History forum but this is somewhat urgent!

    I have been tasked to give a ten minute presentation on the involvement of the TA in the Falklands. Not a problem except it is due for Thursday and has been passed down today.

    To my knowledge there wasn't a TA involvement in the Falklands because of the speed of the response and the TA being seen as a home defence force at that time. If anyone could provide any insights, experience or pointers in the right direction I would be extremley grateful.

    RustyH
    (currently at 10,000ft and climbing)
     
  2. It was good for recruiting into the TA for the next year or so. Our PSAO reckoned he'd never seen so many recruits after May 1982
     
  3. Just chat endless shit about how the taskforce wouldn't have been able to sail then fight the Argentinians if it hadn't been for the TA.

    It works on here for Telic and Herrick.
     
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  4. Spaz is very funny.
     
  5. .........................and very correct.
     
  6. I admire Spaz.

    He once drove all the way from Windsor to Catterick for sex with a grannie on a sofa, so that we could all laugh at him.



    Don't really think that many, if any TA say that HERRICK and TELIC could not have been fought without them. A lot of oddly sensitive Regulars say that they do, though; which isn't quite the same thing. They do this because they're delicate souls lacking slightly in self-esteem
     
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  7. As an aside, I might have given the same reply to that task as I do to those that come in with no notice and an unrealistic expectation in my day job: either "bugger off I'm too busy", or "bugger off but I can do it for next week when I'll have enough time to research and prepare it properly".
     
  8. Yes, I could have however when Lt Col's tell Lt's what to do it tends to be a good idea to get on with it...
     
  9. Rusty,

    My wife was in the TA at the time - the General Hospital based in Cardiff. Elements of the nursing staff were asked to volunteer to deploy as IRs. However, the conflict ended before they had commenced pre-deployment training!

    Cheers

    Berlin
     
  10. I can only respond from the viewpoint of a TA infantry corporal at the time and therefore was not privy to the official goings-on of the time.

    It was a time of confusion, speculation and rumour. ARRSE missed out on the opportunity to live up to its name.

    As I recall, it was a time when the Regular Army was under-recruited and the TA was at one of its highest peacetime manning levels. A large proportion of the Regular Army was in Germany performing UK's standing NATO commitment.

    Rumour was rife that the Regular Army would be unable to fulfil the NATO commitment and send a force to FI in sufficient numbers. That left the TA in a position to either provide the FI relief or to swap with BAOR, allowing the Regulars to head south. It was a bit of a toss up between the two as the TA's role in Germany had been to take up assigned positions that were not those of the Regular Army. There was a thought that NATO would not allow the Regulars to leave their positions, so even more credence for the TA to be involved in the retake of FI.

    The problem was that the Government could not just call out the bits of the TA that would have been needed. Legislation at that time decreed that when the Queen signed the mobilisation order, she'd get all of us - and there weren't enough boats. It would have made no sense, certainly not financially, to have tens of thousands of TA soldiers sat in the Drill Halls twiddling their thumbs and polishing their SLRs because they weren't needed.

    So were weren't called up and the Regular Army, Marines, Navy and RAF seemed to have managed reasonably well without us.

    There was a further rumour that there might be a push for legislation to be changed quickly with regard to mobilising by unit which would have allowed the TA to form a temporary garrison in the aftermath to prevent a second invasion. But that came to nothing either, at least not until 14 years later.
     
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  11. I think that the oc of support company of one of the para battalions was ta on an s type? Might be wrong.

    Several people tell of 131 cdo Sqn re being packed and ready to move to the port before being told legislation wouldn't allow it?
     
  12. A lot of people had their kit packed, ready to go. Certainly, my water bottle was full.

    I don't think many will have gone much further than getting kit ready (rather than loaded) and getting admin squared away for a sharpish move. I wasn't aware of anyone who didn't understand that either we were all going* or that there'd have to be some rushed legislation - and the feeling was that with the politicians being mainly united on the issue, the rushed legislation could have been a possibility.

    *When we weren't invited to be in the first team, eyes were glued to the news because we were aware that we'd scraped the barrel to send troops south while just maintaining (did we really?) our NATO committment and any further reinforcement would have necessitated the TA either joining the fracas or relieving BAOR to free up troops. Arguably, at that point, there would have been a need for a full call out, given that the Soviet leaders may have taken the opportunity to take advantage of the BAOR road humps not knowing which roads they were supposed to lie on.
     
  13. Just noticed this. There's a memorial plaque next to the gate in Keynsham park for a guy (Captain?) from 243 Fd Hosp who was killed during the campaign. IR, S Type or what I have no idea.
     
  14. I was a very spoggy gunner at the time so not privy to much from the grown ups. There was talk of training guys up as 'Battle Casalty Replacements', especially those with a more specialist role, but AFAIK it never came to anything.