After abusing Feroz -provincia on another thread, I have been forced to re-evaluate my opinion given that I was clealry talking out of my arrse!! What do you guys think? Have we bred a nation of illiterate wife-beating mongs or were they always there? Fred West and Harold Shipman certainly disguised their tendencies well and I think most chavs today would be too fcuking pised or lazy to bury fifteen lodgers under the patio and, even if they did, the workmanship would be appalling. Hats of to you Fred. RUP - Rest Under Patio. So, with the exception of your own brats gents, lets debate the British yoof of today PS, pinched the pic from one of ferox's postings. I think it sums it all up rather admirably!!