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cloudbuster

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#4
Sounds like the sort of announcement known as a 'Murray Walker'. Aka 'The Kiss of Death'.
 
#6
I read somewhere that Crab Air had put 617 Squadron off limits to any cuts.
 
#8
It was feared it would be confined to history when the Ministry of Defence replaces its Tornado aircraft with the Joint Strike Fighter (JSF).

Does he mean consigned to history?
 
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cloudbuster

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#9
Post 01-Apr-18 the remaining RAF Sqns will be renumbered in the 651+ series anyway...
 

Grumblegrunt

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#11
leroy wasn't it?

I thought post 18 the RAF goes back to navy blue and gold rings.
 
#13
Just as a Company in the Infantry retains the title of some regiment how long until each individual airplane or drone will become the Colours of famous but extinct RAF Squadrons?
 

Grumblegrunt

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#15
To right they are, they are being held ready to drop the Kajaki dam the minute we pull out of Helmand.
which going by the last effort will need 800 tankings and 140 typhoons to eventually get 1 bomb on target :)
 
#17
Just as a Company in the Infantry retains the title of some regiment how long until each individual airplane or drone will become the Colours of famous but extinct RAF Squadrons?
Shhh... the reason 617 was kept has nowt to do with heritage and all to do with conning the great unwashed that we actually have that many squadrons. Sleep safe in your beds/All's well here, etc.
 
#18
If the Torygraph journalist is here, I have another scoop for him.

Queen Victoria is dead.

This 'news', although it strains the word, has been known since no later than 1968.

Crab squadrons only get their squadron standard after 25 years accumulated service. 617 got its standard early, at the behest of King George VI. When the time came to reduce the size of the V-bomber force (it didn't need to be as large once Polaris arrived to maintain the round-the-clock deterrent), 617 would - as the article says - have disbanded as it was the most junior squadron.

However, the early award of the standard meant that 617 was considered to be outside the normal calculations of seniority, as was the other squadron which had this distinction (120, a maritime patrol squadron) because of the royal intervention. This has been known about on various spotters forums and/including Pprune for years.

So 617 has not been 'saved from the axe' recently, since the chances of 617 being disbanded with the demise of the GR4 force were always going to be next to zero, and the only people who 'feared it would be confined to history' were fcukwitted defence and security journalists who can't be arrsed to do anything more than basic research into their brief. What they were hoping, of course, was that since the Red Arrows have been saved from the annual 'Red Arrows to be disbanded' story by Cameron's intervention, they could find another 'RAF unit the public has heard about to be disbanded in cuts disgrace', but fell down in an embarassing fashion at the first fence.
 
#20
However, the early award of the standard meant that 617 was considered to be outside the normal calculations of seniority, as was the other squadron which had this distinction (120, a maritime patrol squadron) because of the royal intervention. This has been known about on various spotters forums and/including Pprune for years.
Sic transits and all that… ;-)

RAF - 120 Squadron
 

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