The Somme

#1
This weekend marks the 90th anniversary of the start of the Battle of the Somme,One of the bloodiest battles ever fought. 21,500 were killed or missing & a further 35,000 wounded.The first day of the battle was the single most loss of life by any army on one day alone.
Without these ordinary men,From Coalminers & Tramdrivers to Lords & aristocricy, who left their families & their country to fight on foreign soil,god only knows where we would be now.
Sadly,the younger generations have all but forgotten these men,who's number grows fewer every year.But some of us will ensure their sacrifice will not go unremembered,the dead unforgotten.
To those brave men,
Thank You.
Spike
 
#3
oddly not as bad as you think re the younger generation. Seems visitors to the various final resting places of the BEF/Pals in france is much higher than it was 30 years ago with many of the entries in visitors books showing the (louzy) spelling of the brit teenager.

Think they are remembered still.
 
#5
It's still a big thing in many schools in the UK. Many do trips to the Somme as part of the national curriculum. It's good that, although history is constantly dumbed down, they are still reminded of the sacrifices of their great/great great grandfathers.
 
#6
rabid_hamster said:
oddly not as bad as you think re the younger generation. Seems visitors to the various final resting places of the BEF/Pals in france is much higher than it was 30 years ago with many of the entries in visitors books showing the (louzy) spelling of the brit teenager.

Think they are remembered still.
Who cares if their spellings are (Apart from spelling nazis, and teachers who are a bunch of cnuts anyway) bollox at least they've botherd to add to the visitor book. Which is a good thing.
 
#7
I would venture to suggest that there was a reasonable percentage of the Pals and other battalions whose sole contribution to English grammar was the making of their mark.

'Twas more than enough.

Remembered Always.
 
#11
On the History Channel International there was an excellent show about the Somme. Quite the battle it was. Another reason for the British Army to be proud of their heritage.

For CaptCudleberry, or whatever, STFU. Your an idiot...
 
#12
The Newfoundland Regiments attack area near Beaumont Hamel.

Ranks with Auschwitz as the most moving places i've visited.

RIP Lads.
 
#13
The Somme was, arguably, the Ultimate tragedy of the British Empire, as well the greatest truimph, of the average Tommy who made that empire possible.


I see the Somme, as being a important milestone on the way to the Modern British Army.
However, while not in any way detracting from the modern British Soldier, the generation that fought the Somme Leave me in awe of both their fortitude and achievements.
 
#14
Xplosiverab said:
The Newfoundland Regiments attack area near Beaumont Hamel.

Ranks with Auschwitz as the most moving places i've visited.

RIP Lads.
Lt.Col A L Hadow later was to write later that the newfoundlanders had done as much as possible 'because dead men can advance no further'. 30 minutes of combat and of 800 men only 68 are unwounded.
RIP
 
#15
Lawrence Binyon’s poem ‘For the Fallen’, which he wrote, prophetically, in the earliest weeks of the war. Today most of the poem is neglected, but these four lines have become a kind of secular prayer ;

They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old :
Age shall not wither them nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.

http://www.somme-battlefields.co.uk/en/war/artists.aspx

R.I.P. When i read this verse it brought tears to my eye's
 
#16
We will remember them.

RIP
 

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#17
Nothing beats being at the Lochnagar Crater at 07:30hrs on 1st July to commemorate the sacrifice of so many men.

Pipes playing and nothing else. Sorry I cant make it this year.
 
#18
Its amazing, Ive been watching all the news channels on coverage of the Somme and only Sky News have covered the 16th Irish.

The Sky News presenter was interviewing a senior British officer and asked him if the Tommys were lions lead by donkeys, he couldnt give the presenter a straight answer!!
 
#19
Reporting like history can be very selective. I think most of us here are more knowledgeable about the events.

Today is to remember those who made the ultimate sacrifice and the few still alive that survived.

IMHO tomorrow is another day and then perhaps time to discuss who, when, where, why and why not.

90 years ago, many looked forward to a tomorrow but their tomorrows never came.

RIP
 
#20
mistersoft said:
Reporting like history can be very selective. I think most of us here are more knowledgeable about the events.

Today is to remember those who made the ultimate sacrifice and the few still alive that survived.

Tomorrow is another day and then perhaps time to discuss who, when, where, why and why not.

90 years ago, many looked forward to a tomorrow but their tomorrows never came.

RIP
Well Said Mistersoft.
It's ironic that even tho you see all the coverage (or lack of!) in the press,on TV ect & all the documentaries there is about the subject,you very rarely hear irst hand account's of the battles.Perhaps,like my Father,these brave lads refuse to talk about it.Who knows why,I certainly dont know why Dad never talked about WWII.Although he watched all the documentaries & war films,he sometimes fell into a 'reflective mood' as it were.When he came to visit me at Bruggen in 89,He wanted to see all the war cemetaries to pay his respects to his chums who fell over German skies.Perhaps us in the Forces have a better understanding than your average civvie simply because we have a connection with the past generations of servicemen.
For whatever the reason,
Let us not forget their ultimate sacrifice.
RIP & Thank you Gentlemen.
Spike

(I've just been to put some rubbish in the bin & in my back garden,which is a bit overgrown as the Housing Dept are doing up the property,is a single red poppy. I'm sure it was'nt there yesterday.I think I'll pick it tommorow & press it between the pages of the Bible that my Father carried in the war.)
 

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