The SNP - Can they sink any lower?

Let’s break the hilarity down. What do you disagree with
Well you could start by reading the 2014 white paper, then get back to me on the no debt bit.
 

Dek Finlay

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Well you could start by reading the 2014 white paper, then get back to me on the no debt bit.
I refer you to GERS. Which of course you expected. You seem like fun. I like the speed of your response too. Arse isn’t exactly the speedy social media platform we’re all used to. Let’s go.
 
Can someone please explain to me, why my Scottish fathers accent was broader jockanese at the time of his death in 2010, than when he moved South from Scotland to England for a better standard of living in 1962?
 
I refer you to GERS. Which of course you expected. You seem like fun. I like the speed of your response too. Arse isn’t exactly the speedy social media platform we’re all used to. Let’s go.
would that be the Gers that the SNP rejected and then agreed with. You still haven't explained how the white paper talked about Scotlands debt.
Plus it's no fun trying to reason with someone who is incapable of reason.
 
Yes it’s very amazing when those people vote SNP.
But those 55% voted to stay, are the SNP that shite they couldnt convince their own people how much better off they were outside of the UK?
Maybe they were too busy sending texts to 16 year olds.
 

Dek Finlay

Old-Salt
But those 55% voted to stay, are the SNP that shite they couldnt convince their own people how much better off they were outside of the UK?
Maybe they were too busy sending texts to 16 year olds.
If only the Scottish electorate agreed with you. I often wonder why unionists vote SNP. Perhaps they don’t want to pay bedroom tax, prescription charges, bridge tolls, hospital car park charges etc.. I often wonder why English people put up with this shit but then I realise that they ******* love the price the price they have to pay for keeping the Jocks they like. The skirt wearing ugly fat alcoholic junkie freckled Buckfast drinking bagpipe playing English hating *******.
 
If only the Scottish electorate agreed with you. I often wonder why unionists vote SNP. Perhaps they don’t want to pay bedroom tax, prescription charges, bridge tolls, hospital car park charges etc.. I often wonder why English people put up with this shit but then I realise that they ******* love the price the price they have to pay for keeping the Jocks they like. The skirt wearing ugly fat alcoholic junkie freckled Buckfast drinking bagpipe playing English hating *******.
Did you miss the Scottish referendum?
 

Dek Finlay

Old-Salt
Did you miss the Scottish referendum?
The one where Scots voted Yes and non Scots didn’t? Nope. Didn’t miss that. Did you notice how the SNP didn’t go away and I’m straight increased their popularity straight after? Weird eh? It’s as if the electorate in Scotland just aren’t listening to learned people such as yourself. I’m looking forward to hearing from folk here who can tell me how wrong I am and backing it up. Unfortunately all Im seeing so far is references to Jimmy Krankie etc.
 

NI-EX-MEDIC

War Hero
The one where Scots voted Yes and non Scots didn’t? Nope. Didn’t miss that. Did you notice how the SNP didn’t go away and I’m straight increased their popularity straight after? Weird eh? It’s as if the electorate in Scotland just aren’t listening to learned people such as yourself. I’m looking forward to hearing from folk here who can tell me how wrong I am and backing it up. Unfortunately all Im seeing so far is references to Jimmy Krankie etc.
Dek I would imagine you are a tim, I have my personal opinion that any Scot that wants to leave would be of socialist stock or thinking. What never ceases to amaze me is that you think your country could survive in the short time never mind the long term. You have this flawed view that the oil rigs and the distilleries are your property. While Jimie krankie keeps rallying you to up her game the reality is it is never going to happen.
 

Tyk

LE
Ok.
I’m going from memory here because I can’t be arsed going back to find your initial shite bit if I remember correctly it’s standard 77 stuff.
Scotland already qualifies to be a member of the EU. By virtue of already being a fully complicit member of the EU.
Scotland’s debt. Scotland has no debt. Scotland’s is given a grant (an amount of money decided by WM) that it has to run Scotland with. Scotland, regardless of what party it votes in, has to run Scotland within the financial restraints of this “grant”.

Scotland then in this regard has no deficit. It has to run itself within the designated WM budget.

It’s worth noting that Lord Jack McConnell actually sent back millions (it was more than that) because he couldn’t think what to spend it on (Labour).

Imagine that. Subsidy junkie Scotland sending money back to England because it was so rich it didn’t need the money.

Anyway. The queue to get into the EU. There’s no queue. And as explained anyway Scotch already qualifies. Google it.

Currency. Scotland could use bottle tops as currency. It’s ******* minted.

Defence. The U.K. could easily allow the northern seas to be undefended. It takes care of Ireland doesn’t it?

Anyway, if there’s anything else your Halifax arse is concerned about feel free to ask.
-1/10 try much harder.

I made no mention of debt, though that would undoubtedly be a factor, I think in the event of Independence the divorce act would probably apportion a percentage of UK debt to an independent Scotland.
How precisely does Scotland immediately qualify for EU membership? The UK is no longer an EU state and all the transition would be long over by the time any independence happened, Scotland would have to apply and at the very least Spain would be likely to veto due to the Catalan issue, other states with regions inclined towards splitting off may think the same, Belgium has Flanders and Wallonia who really dislike each other. There are other countries in accession status like Serbia, Montenegro, Albania, North Macedonia, oh and Turkey is trying too, so why would Scotland jump the queue? Quoting from some Googling as you suggested.

Scotland’s prospective candidacy for EU membership would be completely novel in two respects. First, it was previously part of the EU for 47 years. Second, it was a constituent of an EU member state, rather than a member state in its own right. While the former would facilitate a faster accession process, the latter would necessitate significant domestic preparations.
Scotland would apply for EU membership in the normal way, under the procedure set out in Article 49 TEU. While in 2014 it was debated whether Scotland could instead become a member state by simply amending the EU treaties under Article 48, such ‘internal enlargement’ would not be possible since Scotland will now be a third country (and in any case it was never clear that the EU would have agreed to this special route).
It's odd if Scotland is so well off that the Barnett Formula is applied to fund Scotland public services since it's apparently not needed, I'm sure HM Treasury will be delighted.
Defence - I mentioned that as it's a DAMN big employer and source of revenue to the Scots economy, all those jobs and the associated spending would go.
Banking, finance and insurance with HQ's currently in Scotland would have NO choice if they wish to do business with the rest of the UK which represents a significant majority of their business as the Bank of England and Treasury rules require UK HQ's. They'd move and all the jobs would go South, that's a LOT of employment on the M8 belt.
I'd love to hear how an independent Scotland shorn of the jobs that would move South, the cash from Westminster the institutions that they would have to set up from scratch would be anything other than a basket case financially (please provide some logic and evidence, emotional ranting is neither) and not exactly an appealing target for inward investment let alone EU accession which according to my Googled estimates would take 3-4 years AFTER it was fully independent and had all the relevant institutions in place.

Try again, your arguments are at best weak and in reality total shite.
 

SDFA

Old-Salt
Ok.

Scotland already qualifies to be a member of the EU. By virtue of already being a fully complicit member of the EU.
Not been a memeber since 31 Jan 2020. Now classed as an 'Ex Member' no matter how many fishing rights (which arent yours btw) you think you have.
Scotland’s debt. Scotland has no debt. Scotland’s is given a grant (an amount of money decided by WM) that it has to run Scotland with. Scotland, regardless of what party it votes in, has to run Scotland within the financial restraints of this “grant”.
Not after the CV outbreak has been put to bed. Who is going to pay for all those staff that have been furloughed? Why are all councils running a deficit due to SNP witholding money specifically given by WM for them?

Scotland then in this regard has no deficit. It has to run itself within the designated WM budget.
The SNP have proven that they would have a deficit and could not run a sweet shop with free sweets and no rent

Anyway. The queue to get into the EU. There’s no queue. And as explained anyway Scotch already qualifies. Google it.

Queue -Turkey, Albania, North Macedonia, Serbia, Montenegro? All in front of Scotland.

Currency. Scotland could use bottle tops as currency. It’s ******* minted.

Where are the reserves? Who controls them, how much is in the reserve. Has it been stress tested and proved resilient to world events?

Defence. The U.K. could easily allow the northern seas to be undefended. It takes care of Ireland doesn’t it?

Thats worked well so far, is that what all the celebration of the Declaration of Arbroath was about recently?

Anyway, if there’s anything else your Halifax arse is concerned about feel free to ask.
Not withstanding the above responses to your statements....what actually happens when Nicola is to old, too frail or just doesnt care anymore? From what I can see, there is noone within the SNP who could sucessfully attempt to run a country outwith their own ego!
 

Auld-Yin

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Not withstanding the above responses to your statements....what actually happens when Nicola is to old, too frail or just doesnt care anymore? From what I can see, there is noone within the SNP who could sucessfully attempt to run a country outwith their own ego!
Is that not a description of St Nicola?
 
But those 55% voted to stay, are the SNP that shite they couldnt convince their own people how much better off they were outside of the UK?
Maybe they were too busy sending texts to 16 year olds.
Or nicking money
Or buying up houses in a suspicious manner
Or fiddling expenses
Or sent pervy texts to women
Or committed Perjury
Or committing Arson
Or knocking their wives about
Or being a weeny bit racist
Or building a monstrosity of a Parliament building 10 times costlier than the original cost estimate

For such a small party their punching well above their weight in criminality and integrity issues

Did I mention the dodgy shipbuilding scandal that's cost £220m+ to date, still yet to be delivered, that has SNP fingerprints all over it?

 
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