The Skinback Fusiliers by Unknown Soldier

#1
I read this book on my computer, you can download it FREE from the openDemocracy website The Skinback Fusiliers by Unknown Soldier, Episode One | openDemocracy or if you've got a Kindle you can get it for 85p, and it's coming out in print soon. I honestly don't know what to say about it except if the MOD ever get hold of it, the author's got to be in trouble. It calls itself a novel, but it's about three lads who start at Catterick and get headlong in the s**t. One's white, one's black, one's Asian and they're all from northern england. The villains of the piece are mainlyh the Scousers, but the Scots come in for a lot of stick as well - drunken, coke-taking nutters.

oh, yeah, and then there's the officers and the padre, a toatal gang of *******, first class. There's an argument on the website about if Unknown Soldier was ever really in, but Joe Glenton seems to think so (for what that's worth!), and other ex-squaddies have backed him too. It's pretty amazing stuff, and at least it's not going to cost you anythihg. Give it a go, and tell me what you think.
 
#3
Ditto. Utter dross.
 
#6
Words fail me.

I wish they'd failed Unknown Soldier too.
 

Joker62

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#7
So, not one for the Book Review club then? ;-)
 
#8
So, not one for the Book Review club then? ;-)
I thought this was a book club, not a rightwing pressure group. I've read the lot now, not just two lines, and a mate gave it to his mother to read, the mad bastard. The language made her eyes water, but she said she was afraid it was to near the bloody truth for comfort. Two of her uncles were killed in the last war, and she said they were fighting for something worth fighting for. Now swe've done our dying, the governments sharpening up the scrapheap axe. It's even the Murdoch's bloody Scum.
 
#9
sorry, it's even IN the Murdoch's bloody Scum. That doesn't mean it isn't true in this case. Three wars on, and the services, all three of them, are getting SHAFTED
 
#10
Corp? F*cking Corp? Never served a day in its life. Nuff said!
 
#11
Just tried to read some more....it made my eyes bleed.

I'll agree with the never served assumption, it reads as if it's how the author thinks the army behaves, or should behave, living up to all the racist, heavy drinking and fighting hyperbole that was vogue mid 80's- 90's.
 
#12
I agree with those who say this book is garbage. What I find insulting is that the author uses the moniker 'unknown soldier' yet has now admitted he has never served. The book is pretty dreadful towards soldiers, portraying them as drug taking, racist bullies led by lazy bigots. Amongst other things it contains:
1. An officer giving a talk on race relations in which he calls blacks ‘golly wogs’.
2. Corporals called ‘Corp’ wtf?
3. The soldiers so far, have engaged in ‘Paki bashing, theft, general bullying and now in Chapter three have started on the ‘pikeys’.
4. A description of a soldier having excrement rubbed on his cheeks during basic training.

I know we’ve nearly all said this is utter dross but there is a serious point to all of this. Liberals at the left leaning site Open democracy actually believe this tripe. They actually believe that this is an insider’s account of Army life, all this whilst our people are dying in Helmand. If anyone thinks that this collection of slanderous insults represents army life can they say so here? Or say so over on Open democracy where I’m debating with the author.
I’m having a debate with the individual who penned this nonsense here. Unknown Soldier on the making of The Skinback Fusiliers | openDemocracy Please feel free to join in and take a side but do not leave abusive comments. The only other commentator so far is a Falklands vet who seems to support Unknown Soldier although he does not actually comment on the book itself that Unknown Soldier has produced.
 
#13
If you click on the link of the guy that pertains to be a Falklands Vet it takes you to his FB page where he supports saving RAF Leuchars, nothing on it to prove he served down South in 82.
 
#15
So, not one for the Book Review club then? ;-)
I don't know what you mean Joker. I think I eschewed obfuscation and captured the work's significance perfectly. :)

In any case, at least I used words which is more than can be said for whoever reviewed the erudite tome entitled 'Rules of Thumb for Chess' (Alburt & Lawrence) which was wordless and simply featured the cover printed thus:

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#16
I would be interested to see a poll run specifically for current or recent junior ranks about the accuracy of this, which might give some weight to the objections to it, or otherwise of course. We have of course no way of vetting whether those responding are legitimate but probably most would be. The poll would be something like "How realistic are the (anti-)social attitudes and behaviour of...." An accurate portrayal of Army life, mostly accurate through to wildy innacurate. If I had to guess I'd go for "Wildly exaggerated with some elements of truth"
 
#17
Dear God in heaven, what a pile of pony? Not content with writing in a style most kindly described as "awful" the author has also managed to perpetrate about a dozen stereotypes - from effete Major to fat pub landlord - in the space of a few paragraphs. What on earth was the author trying to do? If he was an ex-serviceman trying to tell it how it is, then what unit was he in, the 23rd Imaginary Racist Bn? If he is some lefty trying to have a dig at the Army, soldiers and the establishment...well he should have eased back on the throttle because he has gone too far to be believable.

Marks out of ten? I've typed the score i would give it here but you'll need an electron microscope to read the number because it is really really small.
 
#18
I found it a good read and a true reflection of army life. Why, only last week I hospitalised 3 Pakis, 18 F&C, a leery coon and a shirtlifter. That'll teach me to drink when I'm doing duty clutch in a Loggy Depot.
 
#19
I only joined a few days ago, and I'm an army wife and mother, so bear with me. But so far, only the Good CO seems to think it's got some truth in it which is a bit surprising. I haven't rwead it all yet, but it sounds just like my son and his friends talking, probably when they've had a few. One of his mates (not in the army) is a coloured lad, and they call him by the 'N' word and he gives back as good as he gets, because there all friends, they went to school together, and he'd kill you if you said he was a racist. I can't see the problem. There all young lads and you maybe wouldn't want to meet them on a Friday night. So what? They'll go and fight and risk there lives, thank God they will. What are we meant to have for an army, a bunch of violets? And if there meant to be racists, why are two of the three main ones coloured? I think its good.
 
#20
I don't understand computers, either, because I'm not Francis Kane im a friend of his mum and now he says I've blown his cover because he didn't show me how to "log on" right. I'm called vancysgu, which is Welsh for mobile caravan. And I do think it's good, it's just a bit unnecessary. Sorry Pete.
 
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