The secret of how squaddies always manage to pull

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  1. Not sure if this should be here, please feel free to move.
    From TimesOnline-

    From the heroic 300 Spartans of Thermopylae to the Charge of the Light Brigade, history is littered with tales of the bravery of men who knew that death was as likely an outcome as glory.
    Such courage has always been recognised as a supreme asset by military strategists — Carl von Clausewitz, the 19th-century Prussian theorist, described it as “above all things . . . the first quality of a warrior”. For biologists, however, it poses a problem: humans simply should not have evolved to be heroic: the dangers to life and limb are too great.
    Now, it appears, the solution to this evolutionary puzzle may lie in sex. New research suggests that braver soldiers may ultimately win more sexual partners as well as more battles, and that the extra chances to spread their genes can outweigh the risk of dying in combat.
    Natural selection deals brutally with qualities that hurt organisms’ chances of survival and reproduction, and few ways of harming these prospects are quite as blatant as a heroic charge on enemy lines. American scientists have now shown how such courage could have evolved in the small tribal societies of human prehistory.

    The study, by Laurent Lehmann and Marcus Feldman, of Stanford University in California, suggests that great bravery can have evolutionary benefits under certain circumstances, despite its obvious dangers.
    If courage makes it significantly more likely that small bands of tribes-men will win military confrontations with their neighbours, its overall advantages can easily outweigh its risks, a mathematical model has shown.
    Some men who carry genetic variants that promote bravery might perish because of them, but the ones who survive may win more battles through their greater daring. The resulting opportunities for rape and pillage can create a net evolutionary benefit.
    By having sex with their vanquished enemies’ wives and children, and by taking land on which their own womenfolk could grow or gather more food, particularly courageous and successful warriors would have more offspring who share their genes. “This has consequences for our understanding of the evolution of intertribal interactions, as hunter-gatherer societies are well known to have frequently raided neighbouring groups from whom they appropriated territory, goods and women,” the scientists said.
    In the research, details of which are published in the journal Proceedings of the Royal Society, Dr Lehmann and Dr Feldman concentrated on two traits that they imagined might affect societies’ capacity and aptitude for war: bravery and belligerence.
    They assumed that tribes with a high proportion of belligerent men would be more likely to attack rival groups, while those with a high proportion of brave men were more likely to win such battles. Both traits, however, also increased the chances of death.
    While neither of these qualities is controlled by a single gene, the scientists imagined the emergence of single genetic variants that promoted one trait or the other. The multiple genes that influence bravery or belligerence can be assumed to have evolved in a similar way.
    The scientists concentrated on the likely effects among small bands of hunter-gatherers, living in an environment in which rival groups competed intensely for food and shelter.
    It is thought that people have lived in such groups for most of our evolutionary history, and that these conditions are thus the main ones that have influenced the development of the human brain and temperament.
    The model demonstrated that belligerence or bravery genes could spread quite rapidly, despite the increased risk of death, if the conquest of neighbouring tribes brought a group one of two significant advantages. The first was increased opportunities for men to have sex and father offspring, in this case through capturing the women of a defeated tribe. The second was the capture of extra territory, or other material resources.
    While the findings do not explain the emergence of belligerence or bravery, or shed any light on what the genes that might affect these traits might be, they do show a mechanism by which they could have evolved.
    “We show that the selective pressure on these two traits can be substantial even in groups of large size, and that they may be driven by two independent, reproduction-enhancing resources: additional mates for males and additional territory (or resources) for females,” the scientists said.
  2. The only bravery that gets squaddies laid is the bravery to fcuk munters when shedded.
  3. I always find rohypnol a much safer alternative to being brave.
  4. I always thought it was this
  5. Great, a new, windier, way of saying "Alpha male gets to tap off more". Speaking as an increasingly bored academic who is less and less impressed by his career path and environs, I have to say it's a pretty impressive feat of reinventing the wheel by any standard you care to mention.

    (I think MacDonald's are hiring. Must stop by there tomorrow. Jesus Tapdancing Christ on crutches.)
  6. and of course alcohol has nothing to do with pigs being available for shagging, or squaddies thinking that they are stunning.
  7. FFS using a Japanese Santoku or Deba knife went out with Freddie Kruger...

    or was it Mercury.....

    Hmmmm - I'll get back to you on that one!!!
  8. Thanks for letting the Cat (or should that be P*ssy) out of the bag!!!!

    Now the Navy n the Raaaaaaaaaaaf will know how to do it!! Doh!!!!

    Opsec FFS!!!!!!
  9. Class and style never ages. What else would you suggest? Gotta be big enough to sh*t them up, but wieldable incase she decides to put up a fight.

    The alternative I suppose if you're a royal green jacket would be
  10. I alway thought it was because I looked like a Greek god, and was hung like a donkey, and had the gift of the gab to boot.
  11. Woah!!! Hoad oan their sodjer!!!! FFS Just21 have you been stealing my lines from the 80's???? Have You? Have You?

    Well let me tell you BOY!!!!!

    The last time I used that Greek God line was in 86 (that's 1986 ya cheeky c*nt) and the reply I got was...

    "yer lookin noa bad fer being 2000 years auld son"

    So, use it at your peril....
  12. How dare you!! How VERY dare you!!!

    How much space do you think I have under my patio???

    I'm still waiting on some bugger called Fred West to pay me for allowing him to practise slab laying.

    TBH I'm just glad it wasn't mono blocking - the job would still be half finished.

    Anyone got his number?....
  13. Whilst having a glass of wine or four with a friend we were wondering why men bother with drink, drugs or weapons to have their way with women when all they really need is a spider on a bit of cotton or indeed just a bit of cotton that looks like a spider would probably do just as well....
  14. There was me thinking it was the thought of you lot in uniform that made women get their coats :)

    Uniform can turn the gipping-est bloke into a good idea!
  15. I assumed it was very low standards