The sad demise of Thomas Cook Airlines

Not yet (as of 01:00 BST on Monday 23 September) announced on the BBC, but from social media-including this link from PPRuNe, it is clear Thomas Cook Airlines in in the process of going into administration.

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A sad day for British commercial aviation.
 

jarrod248

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Flew with them once from Manchester. Huge generic check in, was horrible.
Leg room awful, treat customers better stay afloat.
 
I thought Thomas Cook was untouchable. Something to do with the Titanic. I was told this years ago by a foreign exchange trader: Back in the mists of time Thos. Cook did all the travellers cheques and had taken all the monies for travellers cheques for the passengers on the Titanic. When it sank and relatives either did not know or could not prove that their deceased loved one's held cheques given values. From then on according to banking regulations the money was held and Thos. Cook benefited from the interest earned which was a pretty penny.
 
If you went with that mantra, Ryanair would long be dead by now. And so would a few others.
Such as the World's favourite airline (sic), the awful British Airways? From reports ( I would not fly on them by choice and they're too expensive to be considered an option for work, usually) their short haul is similar to Ryanair, but lacking the charm.

Shurely shome mistake?.
 
Such as the World's favourite airline (sic), the awful British Airways? From reports ( I would not fly on them by choice and they're too expensive to be considered an option for work, usually) their short haul is similar to Ryanair, but lacking the charm.

Shurely shome mistake?.
The only reason I've flown with them (or code shares) for almost 8 years is because they were my corporate preferred airline.

And once they got rid even of a simple drink/ dry sandwich in economy class in intra-EU flights (apart from LCY), they just became an LCC with a full service airline price tag. So I give them a wide berth, but their main advantage is all those convenient time slots. I prefer Easyjet these days for personal travel.
 
Such as the World's favourite airline (sic), the awful British Airways? From reports ( I would not fly on them by choice and they're too expensive to be considered an option for work, usually) their short haul is similar to Ryanair, but lacking the charm.

Shurely shome mistake?.
I remember the days even back in the late 80's early 90's when a 1 hour flight from Duesseldorf to LHR on BA would include the appropriate cooked meal for the time of day - wine included with lunch, or dinner. Now you are lucky to get a forced smile from a member of cabin crew.
 
I remember the days even back in the late 80's early 90's when a 1 hour flight from Duesseldorf to LHR on BA would include the appropriate cooked meal for the time of day - wine included with lunch, or dinner. Now you are lucky to get a forced smile from a member of cabin crew.
BA= Bloody Awful.

ABBA= Anybody But British Airways.

Says it all. really.
 
Hmm...

Going to thomascook.co.uk gives:

Thomas Cook UK Plc and associated UK entities have entered Compulsory Liquidation and are now under the control of the Official Receiver. The UK business has ceased trading with immediate effect and all future flights and holidays are cancelled. A dedicated support service is being provided by The Civil Aviation Authority to assist customers currently overseas and those in the UK with future bookings. Please visit: www.thomascook.caa.co.uk for further information.
Visiting the link given(www.thomascook.caa.co.uk) gives:

Error 403 - This web app is stopped.
The web app you have attempted to reach is currently stopped and does not accept any requests. Please try to reload the page or visit it again soon.

If you are the web app administrator, please find the common 403 error scenarios and resolution here. For further troubleshooting tools and recommendations, please visit Azure Portal.
I should imagine there are many people working through the night...
 
So now one can no longer book it to Thomas Cook it.
 

Guns

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The irony of a full service travel agency that does package holidays going bust because of people getting cheaper deals online through themselves but because those people booking with Thomas Cook are covered by industry insurance that means their holidays can happen and they will get home without cost.

If they had booked themselves online they would now be relying on their travel insurance and own funds.

My mum uses a specialist travel agency, it costs but the level of detail makes it worth it. She could book online but they make sure everything is taken care of - plus they suggest different cruises, cities or travel ideas that she would never think of.

It will be interesting when a big airline or hotel chain goes bust and there are 10,000's with no cover.

I understand that the government operation to get people home is huge. Can anyone confirm if the Voyager PFI is part of this and one of contingencies that was built in to the contract @Magic_Mushroom - any idea?
 
The irony of a full service travel agency that does package holidays going bust because of people getting cheaper deals online through themselves but because those people booking with Thomas Cook are covered by industry insurance that means their holidays can happen and they will get home without cost.

If they had booked themselves online they would now be relying on their travel insurance and own funds.

My mum uses a specialist travel agency, it costs but the level of detail makes it worth it. She could book online but they make sure everything is taken care of - plus they suggest different cruises, cities or travel ideas that she would never think of.

It will be interesting when a big airline or hotel chain goes bust and there are 10,000's with no cover.

I understand that the government operation to get people home is huge. Can anyone confirm if the Voyager PFI is part of this and one of contingencies that was built in to the contract @Magic_Mushroom - any idea?
I used Thomas Cook a few years ago when we went to Mexico. Me, the kids Mum and the 2 kids.
She came down with gastroenteritis in the hotel and subsequently was removed from the flight home and the holiday insurance refused to pay out as they deemed Thomas Cook, as being at fault for refusing us travel. The doctor in the airport cleared her to fly shortly after the flight had left.
It ended up costing us over 800 quid to stay a few nights extra in Playa Del Carmen before flying home with TUI into Dublin. Having had to rely on family help financially, as we had little money left at the end of the holiday.
I never claimed any money back on my return to the UK.

I think I'll just continue to book flights and accomodation myself in Europe from now on, as it's a hell of a lot easier to get home from Croatia, than it is in Mexico if something goes wrong. Plus the fact I save roughly a grand on a 2 week self catering holiday with better accomodation.
 
I recall that Thomas Cook used to issue travelers checks. Did they still issue them and what will happen to people holding Thomas Cook travelers checks.
 
I recall that Thomas Cook used to issue travelers checks. Did they still issue them and what will happen to people holding Thomas Cook travelers checks.
TCs remain valid even if the underlying issuer goes bust. The ultimate guarantor will be VISA / MC / AMEX etc. and they will honour the cheques.

Fun fact, back when BCCI went bust, and I was still at university, I also ran VISA's traveler's cheque recovery programme, helping worldwide holders of, legitimate, BCCI TCs to get refunds.
 
There was a cool, calm and collected chap live from a TC booked package hotel in Tunisia yesterday on the UK radio who, like other families, was being refused permission (?) to exit the hotel yesterday by "hired security personnel". In short, held to ransom by the hotel. They had actually secured the gate exits to the hotel, and no one was getting in or out. He (and fellow guests) at that point had not been approached to settle the bill themselves. It'll be interesting to see how much more of that escalates in developing ;) countries. I expect a few British consulate staff will be working for their money. Amounts to no less than false imprisonment of foreign nationals surely?
That being so, I look forward to that business and others being social-media blacklisted and going down the tubes as well.
 
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I was reading how they are scrambling various aircraft to bring back stranded passengers, here’s a revolutionary idea, why not hire the empty TC planes and their pilots, fly them as they were scheduled and bingo, passengers are home
 

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