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The Royal Marines amphibious role ?

Truxx

LE
No it was recent. No idea where I saw it but had the heavier RAS rigs, steel beach with vehicle deck and a well deck... After the FSS was mooted being embuggered around with. Assumed that was what you were ranting against somewhere above.



Still is a ship's length vehicle deck a good idea on something carrying lots of ammo? Must make fire containment a tadge tricky.




But was during corporate due to the political consideration of getting ships to sea ASAP such that the FO chaps could be their usual ineffectual selves. You can reload at Ascension / Oh hang on leave Ascension ASAP to put more diplomatic pressure on the Argies. Clapp was somewhat unamused in his book.
On my bit I would not count Corporate as an amphibious op in accordance with the doctrine. Which probably says more about the doctrine than anything.

My anecdotal example is an example is that you can only load to a plan. Another cracker were HM R M on a winter deployment insisting on doing their own stow of the CARADOC which was one of the two boats temporarily leased to fill in for PERCIVALE and GALAHAD. Imagine the joy at arriving at anchor for a mexe offload and having to reverse everything off (all in the wrong order) because they did not realise it didn't have a bow ramp.
 
Funny but no amount of G3 shooting helped.

Is that the next escalation level up from a smartly applied G3 hand chop / Warminster Wave?


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I'm intrigued by the "G3 shooting" aspect of this, as referenced by @Truxx. Is this where the G3 bod became so incensed with the lack of bridging eqpt that he started executing enablers, or was he just slotted by the aforementioned enablers in order to counter the incessant dripping emanating from the G3 Ops Cell? We should be told.

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Truxx

LE
I'm intrigued by the "G3 shooting" aspect of this, as referenced by @Truxx. Is this where the G3 bod became so incensed with the lack of bridging eqpt that he started executing enablers, or was he just slotted by the aforementioned enablers in order to counter the incessant dripping emanating from the G3 Ops Cell? We should be told.

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Shouting .......

soz.

Same ex one of the spearchuckers was writing his bit for when it was his turn to spout at the O group.

My chum leans over his shoulder and says

"you spelled that wrong, you missed out the "F""

"There's no "F" in synergy he says......"

Game set and match to the loggie puke.
 
FSS designs didn't have the mechanised handling system. It's too inflexible for all the other stores and you won't get the stowage rate you need in a ship of sensible size. The RAS rigs are a small portion of the cost - I can think of at least five systems on the ship that were more expensive.

The real cost drivers are some of the margins specified (applied on top of other margins), climate control for the number and area of cargo holds, certain survivability features and to be honest, some of the wish-list facilities that the RFA had requested.
No complaints here as we would have to fix it!

Im not surprised some people ashore have some very weird ideas. Things like Tide boats with drop down bow thrusters are something we at sea shake our heads at. I would be very interested to hear more at somepoint.

No it was recent. No idea where I saw it but had the heavier RAS rigs, steel beach with vehicle deck and a well deck... After the FSS was mooted being embuggered around with. Assumed that was what you were ranting against somewhere above.



Still is a ship's length vehicle deck a good idea on something carrying lots of ammo? Must make fire containment a tadge tricky.




But was during corporate due to the political consideration of getting ships to sea ASAP such that the FO chaps could be their usual ineffectual selves. You can reload at Ascension / Oh hang on leave Ascension ASAP to put more diplomatic pressure on the Argies. Clapp was somewhat unamused in his book.

I don't think its a vehicle deck like an Amphib for vehicles but to allow Forklifts and so on to transport the stores from one end to the other, we call them the clearway. All solid support boats would have them, the R boats, Old Forts and New Forts did.

It would have been nice to have 2 year build up like Overlord but sometimes you have to be there firstest with the mostest.
 

Cromarty

Old-Salt
Last I heard, there wasn't even a developed requirement for LSS. To be fair to them, they're trying to derive a permanent piece of force structure AND change the role of a significant formed unit, with all that entails. The US one (I assume it's Ocean Trader) was done lo-pro for a specific mission with their special people. Makes it easier to do in terms of approvals etc.

LSDA has nearly all the facilities needed. Not so smart selling Largs Bay now....

Selling her was a brilliant idea, thanks very much!
 

Yokel

LE
During the Cold War, the role of the Royal Marines, the LPDs, LSLs, and Commando Helicopter Force was largely to secure NATO's northern flack - ie Norway. Today, they are still demonstrating NATO's capabilities in NATO's flanks - Norway and the Baltic earlier this year, and now the Mediterranean and Black Sea.

UKDJ - British Littoral Response Group sails...

“The task group will also support NATO’s Mediterranean security operation Sea Guardian and conduct exercises in Cyprus – Olympus Warrior and Autonomous Advance Force 3, a test of cutting-edge kit and how it can be exploited by commandos to deal with the very latest of threats. And activity in the Black Sea will include a series of training exercises and port visits to demonstrate the UK’s support for regional security and freedom of movement in Black Sea waters.”

The Royal Navy also add that the Future Commando Force will be represented by elements from the specialist raiding units of 47 Commando, Marines of 42 and 40 Commando based in Plymouth and Taunton, and the intelligence experts of 30 Commando Information Exploitation Group (Plymouth), and Wildcat helicopters from the Commando Helicopter Force at RNAS Yeovilton.
 

Truxx

LE
During the Cold War, the role of the Royal Marines, the LPDs, LSLs, and Commando Helicopter Force was largely to secure NATO's northern flack - ie Norway. Today, they are still demonstrating NATO's capabilities in NATO's flanks - Norway and the Baltic earlier this year, and now the Mediterranean and Black Sea.

UKDJ - British Littoral Response Group sails...

“The task group will also support NATO’s Mediterranean security operation Sea Guardian and conduct exercises in Cyprus – Olympus Warrior and Autonomous Advance Force 3, a test of cutting-edge kit and how it can be exploited by commandos to deal with the very latest of threats. And activity in the Black Sea will include a series of training exercises and port visits to demonstrate the UK’s support for regional security and freedom of movement in Black Sea waters.”

The Royal Navy also add that the Future Commando Force will be represented by elements from the specialist raiding units of 47 Commando, Marines of 42 and 40 Commando based in Plymouth and Taunton, and the intelligence experts of 30 Commando Information Exploitation Group (Plymouth), and Wildcat helicopters from the Commando Helicopter Force at RNAS Yeovilton.
Not LSLs. They were there to support the secure L of C to Central Europe.
 

Dr Death

War Hero
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Both are under cover SBS in drag.
 

Flight

LE
Book Reviewer
All sleeves rolled up I see.
 

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