THe Role of the Infantry

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#1
"The role of Infantry is to seek out and close with the enemy, to kill or capture him, to seize and hold ground and to repel attack, by day or night, regardless of season, weather or terrain".

The Diggers all get imbued with the role of the infantry, a standard definition which leaves no room for misunderstanding.
It should be up on the billet wall, (accommodation block in newspeak,) and every sprog should learn it.

Why do our recruits not get a similar explanation, or wouldn't it be politically correct ?
 
#2
The Infantry's missions is:

“To defeat the enemy through close combat”

DInf said so.

It should be on the wall in every infantryman's room during training.
 
#3
Cutaway said:
"The role of Infantry is to seek out and close with the enemy, to kill or capture him, to seize and hold ground and to repel attack, by day or night, regardless of season, weather or terrain".

The Diggers all get imbued with the role of the infantry, a standard definition which leaves no room for misunderstanding.
It should be up on the billet wall, (accommodation block in newspeak,) and every sprog should learn it.

Why do our recruits not get a similar explanation, or wouldn't it be politically correct ?
That's what I was always lead to believe in my twentysome years as an infantryman. It WAS posted prominently on the walls of training rooms at the Depot and also in my Bn. Can't dilute or warm and fuzzy it to satisfy the PC Brigade.
 
#4
Cutaway said:
"The role of Infantry is to seek out and close with the enemy, to kill or capture him, to seize and hold ground and to repel attack, by day or night, regardless of season, weather or terrain".
Think you'll find that it's cannon fodder - enemy or friendly, doesn't matter! :wink:
 
#5
Cuts. my old Adjutant had this on the door of his office , actually so did the previous one who was commissioned from the ranks , fine warry gentlemen both.

I've also seen it in the training wing at ITC .
 
#6
barbs said:
The Infantry's missions is:

“To defeat the enemy through close combat”
Now that is the latest version.

An older version of a white, pink and green book (Jul 02) has the following:

The Infantry's mission is:

'to close with and engage the enemy, in concert with other arms in all operational theatres and environments, in order to bring about his defeat.'

I think some dilution has taken place over time.
 
#7
barbs said:
The Infantry's mission is:

'to close with and engage the enemy, in concert with other arms in all operational theatres and environments, in order to bring about his defeat.'

I think some dilution has taken place over time.
From e-Battle Box 6:

The Infantry Mission is —
‘to close with and engage the enemy in all operational
theatres and environments, in order to bring about his
defeat’.

Not checked 7 yet. Also got it on main noticeboard of our RTC and seen it plenty of other places as well.
 
#8
So what has happened is we've gone from:

"The role of Infantry is to seek out and close with the enemy, to kill or capture him, to seize and hold ground and to repel attack, by day or night, regardless of season, weather or terrain"

to:

"to close with and engage the enemy, in concert with other arms in all operational theatres and environments, in order to bring about his defeat"

to:

"to close with and engage the enemy in all operational theatres and environments, in order to bring about his defeat"

to:

“To defeat the enemy through close combat”

I have noticed a link - as the infantry gets smaller so does its mission statement. I think the next mission statement will be :

'Infantry ergo sum'
 
#9
Inf we kill. :lol:
 

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#10
Busterdog said:
Cutaway said:
"The role of Infantry is to seek out and close with the enemy, to kill or capture him, to seize and hold ground and to repel attack, by day or night, regardless of season, weather or terrain".

The Diggers all get imbued with the role of the infantry, a standard definition which leaves no room for misunderstanding.
It should be up on the billet wall, (accommodation block in newspeak,) and every sprog should learn it.

Why do our recruits not get a similar explanation, or wouldn't it be politically correct ?
That's what I was always lead to believe in my twentysome years as an infantryman. It WAS posted prominently on the walls of training rooms at the Depot and also in my Bn. Can't dilute or warm and fuzzy it to satisfy the PC Brigade.
While I agree with the statement - how can it ever be different? Nowadays the Infantry are there to make the army look good by doing to job the army was set up for - thus allowing shed loads of cash to be spent on REMFs while paring away at the strength of the Infantry. After all they will never vote Neu Arbeit. :wink:

p.s. for all REMFs this is what is known to real human beings as a joke! (Apart from the first sentence)
 

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#11
Sorry - seems to have been a stutter.

To paraphrase Admiral Beattie at Jutland "There appears to be something wrong with our Arrse tonight" :!:
 
#12
Auld-Yin said:
p.s. for all REMFs this is what is known to real human beings as a joke!
Which bit is the joke?

And would any of you bright Infantry types like to explain the Echelon system to me; when you all bang on about REMFs do you actually mean Rear Area or do you mean everyone that's not Infantry (apart from the REMFs who presumably have honorary non-REMF status for purposes of the insult).

Kids coming out of Staff College these days :roll: Forget Shrivenham, Hollywood tells all!
 
#15
belt_fed_wombat said:
Think you'll find that it's cannon fodder - enemy or friendly, doesn't matter! :wink:
Always thinking about food aren't you you fat knacker?

Cutaway said:
"The role of Infantry is to seek out and close with the enemy, to kill or capture him, to seize and hold ground and to repel attack, by day or night, regardless of season, weather or terrain".
thanks for clearing that up.
 
#17
Joe_Bananas said:
...and dont start whittering on about FOOs and things, they're only there because we bring them along to help
You would not move without them (as proved on TELIC - the Inf and cav would not move before the Gods of war had stonked then sh1te out of the en posns).
 
#18
goatbagthedruid said:
Joe_Bananas said:
...and dont start whittering on about FOOs and things, they're only there because we bring them along to help
You would not move without them (as proved on TELIC - the Inf and cav would not move before the Gods of war had stonked then sh1te out of the en posns).
Having trained a Fd regt for an Op banner tour, you're more like "plods of bore"
 
#19
goatbagthedruid said:
Joe_Bananas said:
...and dont start whittering on about FOOs and things, they're only there because we bring them along to help
You would not move without them (as proved on TELIC - the Inf and cav would not move before the Gods of war had stonked then sh1te out of the en posns).
Just where did you get that bollox from goatbag? Perhaps the case with 16 Bde, but certainly not the case with 7 due to the extremely restricted ability to use arty in the built-up area (our own rules). Most requests for fire were declined for that reason, hence we (and the Cav - who were excellent) had to get in amongst it without it having been stonked. Far more useful were the MAW Cobras.

And just how many arty rounds were fired in the sezing of Basrah on April 5/6 2003? Pretty much none I think you'll find. And how do I know? Because they were parked about a k away, and when they did let rip, we knew about it.
 
#20
In the fighting in Al Amarah, I don't remember the Arty doing anything other that having a Bty trying to locate the en mortars. They were affectionatly known as Random Bty. Some of there steers were laughable. Even the newest Pte sldr would have the sence to know that the mortar FP was not in the middle of the river. Al Amarah was pure Inf and Cav all the way.
 

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