The Remainer march in London today.

Lots. I have even traveled to the US twice and not had a passport although the entry from Canada to the US on a NATO travel order did take a little time and raise some eyebrows. France was always a little problematic but most times they just waved you through. I didn't have a passport till 83 and had traveled to Denmark, Germany, France, Belgium, Cypress, Holland, Iceland, Canada, USA and Scotland.
Yeah,I traveled around the World on an ID Card, including Japan, Try it as a Civvy going to France, any means of travel "Passport Please"............
 
For the FOURTH F*CKING TIME, what I said was that I DON'T want another referendum.
"I don't want another referendum to happen but wanting a referendum on the final deal is a reasonable position", i.e.,
(a) there are two opposing positions on whether such a referendum should happen;
(b) the one (one) I favour is the one you agree with;
(c) it's possible for people to have legitimate grounds for holding an opinion I don't like, & I've acknowledged that in this case.
Yes, you were as clear as a remain voters head.
 
I'm not going to do your research for you, look up on Google, all the EU Laws Switzerland has to comply with, not regulations,Laws which she has no control over, which are passed without her say so!
You can look at the link if you want but I just posted a bit.

Norway, Switzerland and EU laws

This system means that Switzerland doesn’t formally lack control over its own laws.
So if you want to export toasters to Germany you need to comply with their rules, the same as any other country. I have a feeling that we still can't export beef to the US. Both Switzerland and Norway want to have access to the EU but don't want to be part of the club. For Norway it may be because of the ridiculous fishing policy for Switzerland it may have to do with too much scrutiny of the banking system.

Edited to add. Just looked it up and although red meat can be exported to the US it seems that not a lot of it is going there.

Strong year for UK meat exports - AHDB Beef & Lamb
 
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DaManBugs

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You can look at the link if you want but I just posted a bit.

Norway, Switzerland and EU laws



So if you want to export toasters to Germany you need to comply with their rules, the same as any other country. I have a feeling that we still can't export beef to the US. Both Switzerland and Norway want to have access to the EU but don't want to be part of the club. For Norway it may be because of the ridiculous fishing policy for Switzerland it may have to do with too much scrutiny of the banking system.

Edited to add. Just looked it up and although red meat can be exported to the US it seems that not a lot of it is going there.

Strong year for UK meat exports - AHDB Beef & Lamb
It's not so much the banking scrutiny that the Swiss are concerned about, but rather that they're quite happy to be a transit country and charge loads for the use of their autobahns. A normal jam-jar has to have a "Vignette" to drive on them. So does every truck and, if the truck's pulling a trailer, that has to have one too. The cost is 40 Schweizer Franken a year (about 37 euros). The Swiss are making a bomb on it. Any transport going from East to West or North to South has to pass through Switzerland as the shortest route.

MsG
 
It's not so much the banking scrutiny that the Swiss are concerned about, but rather that they're quite happy to be a transit country and charge loads for the use of their autobahns. A normal jam-jar has to have a "Vignette" to drive on them. So does every truck and, if the truck's pulling a trailer, that has to have one too. The cost is 40 Schweizer Franken a year (about 37 euros). The Swiss are making a bomb on it. Any transport going from East to West or North to South has to pass through Switzerland as the shortest route.

MsG

Chop across Bavaria and drop into the east of Austria - Just €17, and no second vignette for the caravan.
 
If the current Labour party gets elected then the country will be bankrupted within 5 years and we will be in for a repeat of 1973/4 Winter of Discontent etc etc.

Whilst I agree that some key utilities should be nationalised, the Labour plan will send investors running for the hills.

As usual, your happy-clappy socialist wibble will be screwed in the cold light of day.

The chances of Labour winning the next GE are pretty slim, despite the current Tory chaos and the best that Corby can hope for is a hung parliament.
Brexit will put the Tories out of power by 2022.
 
At this point, what would happen if we just went ahead a negotiated a trade deal and then waited until we had left before signing off? What are the EU going to do, throw us out?

This is precisely the sort of behaviour that we are no longer compelled to abide by. We can negotiate a trade deal with non EU members and there is nothing that the EU can do about it. It is long past the time that we take the Trump approach to this and take charge of the situation.
No country in the world will agree the terms of a future trade agreement until the boundary conditions of our future relationship with the EU are known.

It's been covered before.
 
^ This is your brain on hyperpartisan hysteria. ^
"I don't want another referendum to happen but wanting a referendum on the final deal is a reasonable position", i.e.,
(a) there are two opposing positions on whether such a referendum should happen;
(b) the one (one) I favour is the one you agree with;
(c) it's possible for people to have legitimate grounds for holding an opinion I don't like, & I've acknowledged that in this case.
Mate, I dont give a flying fcuk about what you think but may I suggest that if you are going to post, at least try and post in English. I read it half a dozen times as I thought I was missing something.....I wasn't.:rolleyes:

You're welcome.
 
You can look at the link if you want but I just posted a bit.

Norway, Switzerland and EU laws



So if you want to export toasters to Germany you need to comply with their rules, the same as any other country. I have a feeling that we still can't export beef to the US. Both Switzerland and Norway want to have access to the EU but don't want to be part of the club. For Norway it may be because of the ridiculous fishing policy for Switzerland it may have to do with too much scrutiny of the banking system.

Edited to add. Just looked it up and although red meat can be exported to the US it seems that not a lot of it is going there.

Strong year for UK meat exports - AHDB Beef & Lamb
I understand it, you obviously miss the point! to have access to the Single Market, both Switzerland and Norway have to abide by certain laws promulgated by the EU, they have no say when those laws are amended or,changed but still have to abide by them, they also have to cough up money.

Now ask yourself this, why should any country outside the EU (including us when we leave), have to comply with any EU Laws, when Japan has just negotiate a Free trade deal and, access to the Single Market, and the only compliance is EU specifications and packaging of goods entering the EU?
 
Mate, I dont give a flying fcuk about what you think but may I suggest that if you are going to post, at least try and post in English. I read it half a dozen times as I thought I was missing something.....I wasn't.:rolleyes:

You're welcome.
I don't think I'm going out on a limb by saying that it's a lack of comprehension on your part, not a lack of clear expression on mine.

Does anyone else have trouble with the concept of disagreeing with a person whilst acknowledging that the thing you disagree with is based on something more solid than thin air?
 
I don't think I'm going out on a limb by saying that it's a lack of comprehension on your part, not a lack of clear expression on mine.

Does anyone else have trouble with the concept of disagreeing with a person whilst acknowledging that the thing you disagree with is based on something more solid than thin air?
:rolleyes:
 
I understand it, you obviously miss the point! to have access to the Single Market, both Switzerland and Norway have to abide by certain laws promulgated by the EU, they have no say when those laws are amended or,changed but still have to abide by them, they also have to cough up money.

Now ask yourself this, why should any country outside the EU (including us when we leave), have to comply with any EU Laws, when Japan has just negotiate a Free trade deal and, access to the Single Market, and the only compliance is EU specifications and packaging of goods entering the EU?

Contrary to what Remoaners fondly imagine, there are not EU specific designs of cars and packaging - everyones into a global brand model now that is just localised as needed on the production line which will be anywhere in the world..
 
Contrary to what Remoaners fondly imagine, there are not EU specific designs of cars and packaging - everyones into a global brand model now that is just localised as needed on the production line which will be anywhere in the world..
Precisely.
Suddenly, our goods will not meet EU standards post Brexit.
Jesus, the thick of it.
 

DaManBugs

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Book Reviewer
Chop across Bavaria and drop into the east of Austria - Just €17, and no second vignette for the caravan.
That's fine for an individual, although a second "Vignette" isn't necessary for a caravan in Switzerland either. It's a different story for a transport company because it adds about 350 kms to the journey from north to south. Considering that rest-times have to be adhered to by the drivers (even in Switzerland), you're looking at an avoidable delay of at least four hours - or a full working day there and back. Time is money, as they say.

MsG
 
Im not frothing, just pointing out all the projection by the leavers who claim it remainers who are always moaning yet its the leavers currently b**hing and constantly opening threads on here
They're on the back foot.

There's a smell of fear on this thread that their brexit dream is slowly fading away
 
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