The Rangers, the Regimental Band and Affiliated Cadets Chang

#1
It is now confirmed that Royal assent has been given to re-name our TA battalion and affiliated ACF/CCF detachments. On the 1st of September 2007 the Royal Irish Rangers (RANGERS) will become the 2nd Battalion The Royal Irish Regiment (2 R IRISH). In addition, on the 1st November 2007, with the disbandment of the Regimental Band, the North Irish Territorial Army Band will rebadged to become The Band of the Royal Irish Regiment (TA). Finally our affiliated ACF and CCF units will rebadge Royal Irish Regiment in due course.

On the amalgamation of the Royal Irish Rangers and the Ulster Defence Regiment in 1992 it was decided that the TA battalions and affiliated CCF and ACF units of the new Royal Irish Regiment would retain the 'Rangers' title in order to maintain a distinction from those operational battalions engaged in counter-terrorist operations in Northern Ireland. The end of the terrorist campaign in Northern Ireland means that this distinction is no longer necessary.

Like the rest of the Infantry, we must change if we are to remain competitive in terms of recruiting. Six months ago we were the largest infantry regiment in the Army - at midnight on 31 July 2007 we became the smallest. The presentation of a strong, single regimental image is therefore considered vital to recruiting the Regiment and to developing and sustaining the operational efficiency that will be needed as we move forward together in to our new future.

On the 1st of September we will become a unique entity with a single regular battalion directly supported by a single TA battalion. This move will cause us all great sadness but we have much to be proud of. The TA battalions carried forward the Rangers title with distinction for 15 years beyond the amalgamation and in that time our Territorial Rangers have served on operations in Kosovo, the Falklands, Iraq and Afghanistan. Some things will stay the same - our Rangers will continue to be called Rangers and the Caubeen will continue to be worn by both battalions.
 
#2
shame the Rangers title will be lost.

surely they could rename the 1st Bn the Rangers?
 
#3
I always like the title Rangers, very historical, vis a vis the Connaught Rangers etc.

Shame to see it go.

P
 
#7
look back to the 18th Regiment of Foot and tell me what their name was on disbandment in 1922.our shortened title have been "The Rangers"for the last 15 years.i'm 17 years in the battalion but have lived with the Royal Irish Rangers throughout my entire life including UDR,North Irish Militia and as off 1st September 2nd bn Royal Irish Regiment.i am proud of our history,but to rename our 1st bn back to Rangers as some had been suggesting since the announcement the the HS battalions would disband would have been a dishonour to the Ulster Defence Regiment.
F.A.B.
 
#8
Sad day to lose the RANGER title, however we are and will remain Rangers at heart, I'm very proud to become a member of 2 R.Irish and am also exceptionally proud to carry on the traditions of the Ulster Defence Regiment. Irish Soldiers from both sides of the dotted line have been in the service of the monarchy for more years than you can shake a blackthorn at, and long may it continue.

God save the Queen, Faugh-A-Ballagh!
 
#10
Ulster Brigade, the 18th of Foot was a predessessor of the present Royal Irish so re-using the name isn't a problem as their is a hiostorical link. The Rangers were a London Volunteer Rifle regiment and had no connections to the Irish, therefore the single name "Rangers" cannot be used
 
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LondonCalling,if you truely know your military history you would surely know that the original Royal Irish Regiment were from the south of Ireland and that the 3 regiments that amalgamated to form the Royal Irish Rangers were from the north i.e 27th,83rd and 87th of foot were from the north.The U.D.R. were formed in 1971.The name" Royal Irish Regiment" has no historical link to the original regiment at all,it is merely a merger of 2 regimental names.Hope this clarifies this point for you ,if not i,m sure my fellow "Rangers"will back me up.
F.A.B.
 
#12
The new regiment is NOT the reformation of the original Royal Irish Regiment (18th of foot), but rather an amalgamation of the Royal Irish Rangers (27th Inniskilling) 83rd and the 87th of foot and the UDR and is simply a name being re-used.
Direct lineage to the Royal Irish Regiment was curtailed due to the Act of Partition when the Original Regiment was disbanded in 1922.
London as for the single name Rangers cant be used, I think you may find if the powers that be decide to use the single name then they will, never mind what anybody else thinks :)
 
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benjaminw1

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#13
LondonCalling said:
Ulster Brigade, the 18th of Foot was a predessessor of the present Royal Irish so re-using the name isn't a problem as their is a hiostorical link. The Rangers were a London Volunteer Rifle regiment and had no connections to the Irish, therefore the single name "Rangers" cannot be used
Look up 88th Foot old son
 
#14
Rangers!? Aren't they a Subbuteo football team?
 
#16
Look up 88th Foot old son
1779.10.12 88th Regiment of Foot raised in Worcestershire
1783 disbanded.

No connection to the Irish.

1793.09.25 88th Regiment of Foot (Connaught Rangers) raised
1881.07.01 united with 94th Regiment of Foot, to form The Connaught Rangers

Never bore the title "The Rangers", but always "The Connaught Rangers."

However, a London based volunteer Rifle Regiment has born the title "The Rangers".

1860.04.30 40th Middlesex Rifle Volunteer Corps (Central London Rangers)
raised at Gray's Inn
1860.08 formed part of 3rd Administrative Battalion
1861 40th Middlesex Rifle Volunteer Corps (Gray's Inn Rifle Rangers)
1861.04.20 absorbed 35th RVC from 6th Admin Bn and became independent of 3rd Admin Bn
1861 40th Middlesex Rifle Volunteer Corps (Central London Rifle Rangers)
1880.09.03 22nd Middlesex Rifle Volunteer Corps (Central London Rangers)
1881.07.01 [8th] volunteer battalion of The King's Royal Rifle Corps
1889 battalion came within boundaries of new County of London, formed from parts of Middlesex, Kent and Surrey
1891.12 22nd Middlesex Volunteer Rifle Corps (Central London Rangers)
1908.04.01 12th (County of London) Battalion, The London Regiment (The Rangers)
transferred to T.F. with HQ at Bedford Square, Holborn, London
A Company
B Company
C Company
D Company
E Company
F Company
G Company
H Company
1915.03 1/12th (County of London) Battalion, The London Regiment (The Rangers)
renumbered on formation of 2/12th Battalion
1916.07.07 transferred to corps of The King's Royal Rifle Corps
1920.02.07 12th (County of London) Battalion, The London Regiment (The Rangers)
reconstituted in T.A. with HQ at Tottenham Court Road, London
A Company at ?
B Company at ?
C Company at ?
D Company at ?
1922 12th London Regiment (The Rangers)
1937.08.10 The Rangers, The King's Royal Rifle Corps
1939.03.31 1st Battalion, The Rangers, The King's Royal Rifle Corps
redesignated on formation of duplicate 2nd Battalion
1941.03.22 9th Battalion, The King's Royal Rifle Corps (The Rangers)
1947.04.01 The Rangers, The Rifle Brigade (Prince Consort's Own)
reconstituted in T.A. with HQ at Finsbury
A Company at Tottenham
B Company at Tottenham
C Company at Tottenham
D Company at Tottenham
1960.05.01 amalgamated with London Rifle Brigade, to form London Rifle Brigade/Rangers

LondonCalling I think may be a Rifleman and if so he does indeed know his regimental history.

In any event the best of luck to UDR/RIR (new and old). Does this mean you are getting the beers in?
 
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benjaminw1

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#17
So fackin what!

(hits head on wall a number of times)

"Rangers" as a military moniker has a longer run with the paddies than with the 12th County of London brackets close brackets.

Pedantic pillock
 
#18
So you were facking wrong.

Thats all.
 
#19
GwaiLo said:
In any event the best of luck to UDR/RIR (new and old). Does this mean you are getting the beers in?
Not to be a pedant, but RIR refers to the Royal Irish Rifles. R Irish will suffice...

*ducks back down into the bog looking for potatoes*
 
#20
well, apart from nit-picking, good luck to the new 2nd Bn the Royal Irish Regiment. I'm glad they have been rightly recognised as the second battalion in that regiment, not like the Royal Regiment of Fusiliers who relegated their TA Bn to 5th place!
 

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