the raf have been at someones cocoa

Grumblegrunt

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In the 60's the RAF were looking into round the clock airborne V bombers to maintain the deterrent. Forget the figures but it was lots of aircraft. Even if they didn't maintain the deterrent and just flew when and where instant sunshine was required it would take a fair fleet of tankers to get to a launch position for a lot of the nasties around the world. N.B. Think they were trying to prove a point bombing Libya from Marham.
Also easier to find and trim bits off in defense cuts.
Ho and the RAF would either miss or go into default mode and bomb Berlin.
 
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I think Freddie needs to step away from the crack pipe. That article is fundamentally incorrect
 
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Ditch Trident for a tactical bomber | Frederick Forsyth | Columnists | Comment | Daily Express

been there before haven't we?

I have visions of us respeccing the b2 to cost 3bn ea at least.

just sticking nukes in tornado nose cones would do the job I reckon
Well, the RAF has been talking shite for decades about how VC10s and Tristars were 'strategic', rather than 'long range buses/4 tonners' which would be more accurate. So good luck to them with this campaign.

Bless..
 
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Well, the RAF has been talking shite for decades about how VC10s and Tristars were 'strategic', rather than 'long range buses/4 tonners' which would be more accurate. So good luck to them with this campaign.

Bless..
What makes you think the RAF are in the least bit interested in taking on the Strategic Deterrent? An article by a crap writer in a crap paper? FFS, get a grip. They were happy enough to ditch the tactical bombs and nobody I've spoken to in the last thirty years or so has suggested that the deterrent should operate in any way other than the current system.

Grumblegrunt has consistently failed to separate fact from malicious fantasy when posting about the RAF and this is no different. Anyoo, I'm away to my secret island, cat tucked under arm. Laters.
 

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The RAF have a role in the nuclear deterrent, smaller than when they had MPA, but they have no desire to get in the delivery business. No serious RAF person would argue otherwise, it makes no sense and would see them having to completely redefine their role and require a massive shift in their set up.

Fantasy writing by people too long out of the game. Fun as RAF baiting is it should be confined to their lack of tradition, man made fibres, slip on loafers and being "good with colours" - in essence good old banter.
 
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The RAF have a role in the nuclear deterrent, smaller than when they had MPA, but they have no desire to get in the delivery business. No serious RAF person would argue otherwise, it makes no sense and would see them having to completely redefine their role and require a massive shift in their set up.

Fantasy writing by people too long out of the game. Fun as RAF baiting is it should be confined to their lack of tradition, man made fibres, slip on loafers and being "good with colours" - in essence good old banter.
Quite. Don't be a spoilsport :)
 
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Quite. Don't be a spoilsport :)
Indeed, I was looking forward to your no doubt knowledgeable and well thought out response. Much the same as I enjoyed my ex brother in law explaining to me why his children weren't allowed to eat in MacDonald's. ;-)
 
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Has Fredrick Forsythe been appointed an RAF spokesman whilst I wasn't paying attention then?
He did do his national service with the RAF in 1956-58 and got his wings as a Vampire pilot. Yes there were national service pilots in those days mainly to boost the ranks of the RAuxAF who were running out of wartime pilots by then. Same goes for other aircrew.

air force | national service | bomber command | 1950 | 0452 | Flight Archive

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Of course this does not make him an expert on defence strategy and procurement! Then again it never stops us on ARRSE...
 
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He did do his national service with the RAF in 1956-58 and got his wings as a Vampire pilot. Yes there were national service pilots in those days mainly to boost the ranks of the RAuxAF who were running out of wartime pilots by then. Same goes for other aircrew.

air force | national service | bomber command | 1950 | 0452 | Flight Archive

National Service Aircrew - PPRuNe Forums

Of course this does not make him an expert on defence strategy and procurement! Then again it never stops us on ARRSE...
It may not make him an expert on defence strategy and procurement,but it doesn't stop most R.A.F. pilots thinking they are.
 
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Fixed that for you
I'm pretty certain that's exactly what the original quote was saying...

You don't quite grasp the concept of "humorous misquotes", do you?
 
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