The Poppy Thief who has sickened Britain

#1
Apologies if I've been stupid and missed a thread about this (I've looked but can't see one) but I'm gobsmacked!

Caught on camera again: The Poppy Thief who has sickened Britain

The man dubbed the meanest thief in Britain for stealing a poppy collection box has struck again - on Armistice Day.

Unaffected by the public disgust at his first crime, the seemingly respectable man grabbed another collection box, as the rest of Britain respectfully remembered the war dead.
Source.

To say I'm sickened by this scum is an understatement. :x
 
#2
Whilst I denounce what these two men (and I use the word only in its biological sence) have done - has the Daily Mail buggared up any chance of a conviction by making the cctv evidence available???
 
#3
I'd worry more about the videotaping of the tarring and feathering.
 
#5
Sven said:
Whilst I denounce what these two men (and I use the word only in its biological sence) have done - has the Daily Mail buggared up any chance of a conviction by making the cctv evidence available???
The law's capacity to be an ass notwithstanding, how can that be? If there's video evidence of the theft, surely it can't be prejudicial to show it before a trial - or can it?
 
#6
DozyBint said:
Sven said:
Whilst I denounce what these two men (and I use the word only in its biological sence) have done - has the Daily Mail buggared up any chance of a conviction by making the cctv evidence available???
The law's capacity to be an ass notwithstanding, how can that be? If there's video evidence of the theft, surely it can't be prejudicial to show it before a trial - or can it?
Because evidence has been leaked before any trial, the defence can argue that any jury would not be entering its duty without prior prejudice
 
#7
Sven said:
DozyBint said:
Sven said:
Whilst I denounce what these two men (and I use the word only in its biological sence) have done - has the Daily Mail buggared up any chance of a conviction by making the cctv evidence available???
The law's capacity to be an ass notwithstanding, how can that be? If there's video evidence of the theft, surely it can't be prejudicial to show it before a trial - or can it?
Because evidence has been leaked before any trial, the defence can argue that any jury would not be entering its duty without prior prejudice
Grrrrrrrrr! The filthy thieving scum deserves to hang! :x I hope they've not buggered it up, though even if he gets caught and it gets to trial he'll probably only get a couple of hours community service. :x
 
#8
Sven said:
DozyBint said:
Sven said:
Whilst I denounce what these two men (and I use the word only in its biological sence) have done - has the Daily Mail buggared up any chance of a conviction by making the cctv evidence available???
The law's capacity to be an ass notwithstanding, how can that be? If there's video evidence of the theft, surely it can't be prejudicial to show it before a trial - or can it?
Because evidence has been leaked before any trial, the defence can argue that any jury would not be entering its duty without prior prejudice
Hmm - I haven't studied Evidence, but if the Jury is going to be shown the CCTV footage in court anyway, how can it be said that there is prior prejudice, or that whatever prejudice there might be is relevant? I think the only situation where the video might harm a prosecution is where the video is not going to be used as evidence.
 
#9
Sven is talking rubbish. Somehow I think he lives in another country and doesn't understand our laws.
 
#10
I hope someone who knows this scum will show some moral backbone & shop the scum to the Peelers.(hopefully they'll be a slight technical fault with the CCTV in the cells as well......
B astward is beneath contempt!
 
#11
Lucky_Jim said:
Sven is talking rubbish. Somehow I think he lives in another country and doesn't understand our laws.
The only way a video released then introduced into evidence can be contested is if the defence can show doubt in the authenticity and/or malice in it's recording (a sting)

The recording will be a whole afternoons worth, so it'll show it's not been doctored, the police would have had to approve its release and broadcast and therefore be confident in it being a tool to ID and apprehend these two. (please note I'm not voicing an opinion as to do so then be called to jury service in this case could show I had a prejudice and lead to my having to dismiss myself as bias.)

Please let me be on the jury.

Beebs x
 
#12
Sven said:
Because evidence has been leaked before any trial, the defence can argue that any jury would not be entering its duty without prior prejudice
Unless this is going to be contested at an higher level, my understanding is that this will be handled in a local court and will not require a jury trial.

This is a case of petty theft of a few quid, not the Midsummer Murders.

He' probably just get probation or community service, someone will be able to dig up some extenuating circumstances??
 
#13
It's insult added to injury. The fact that the public have to collect amongst themselves to look after our war heroes is bad enough without tw@ts like this making it even more difficult.
 
#14
Just another thought on evidence, what about when the Police relase a CCTV video in the hope of catching the offenders - I recall the video of Jamie Bulgers killers being released.

J
 
#15
See my post this was on the front page of the local echo when it happened, with a large CCTV photo, asking for the name, said theif was convicted.

I would add he was on early release!!!!!!!
 
#17
if this carries on poppy sellers will go out in gangs so they dont get mugged and security guards will stand by the collection tins. It is disgraceful
 
#18
Three years ago whilst on the p*ss and in need of more booze I visited Jacksons minimart on Kings Road in Harrogate.
After collecting said booze and joining queue in walked a couple of very unsavoury characters. While I was staring at the cashiers ample chest one of the two butted in and asked her a question, at the same time the second scooped up the poppy collection jar/jug/tin (whatever it's called) and left. I must say I couldn't believe my eyes.
I put my ale down and followed the scum back to their hole and called plod.
Thought about doing something myself but then realised I would probably end up in hospital due to my already being smashed.
Soon after, duty plod turns up (one of which was a stunner!) and escorts scum into back of wagon.
Job done I thought.
Later gave statement and thought no more of it.
A couple of weeks after that I got a call from plod to say thank you and to let me know that the f*ckers were low life drug dealers who were out on bail.
And, now the very good news - they were back in prison in time for Christmas! :D :D :D

Game on!

Never did see the lovely WPC again.


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