Remember when Rumsfeld came under a considerable amount of pressure to answer some searching questions about abuse of prisoners etc. If the ongoing courts martial reache guilty verdicts on the 3 soldiers in the dock in Osnabruck I wonder if TCH will be required to face the same type of grilling and aportioning of blame that some of the world gave our Donald? I'll wager a fiver that any politician even remotely associated with the MoD will be concocting a miserable, weasle paragraph to disassociate himself with any military connection, just in case the press drop him up to his nuts in Branston. Or will the merde stop somewhere further downhill? I wonder how many officers (senior or junior) have either tendered their resignation or contemplated it because they know that someone lower down the chain has committed a heinous offence (either on ops or in peacetime). There's no doubt that if found guilty the three musketeers should face a hafty punishment - but where does the buck stop? The one glimmer of hope for the three is that old adage 'In the Army, you're guilty until prosecuted by the ALS'!