The Police Officer’s Guide to Shooters

#3
Unfortunately, this publication is well needed. A quick troll of shooting forums shows all too clearly just how often members of the legal shooting community are confronted by ARVs/CO19 and their regional counterparts. Although, you would have thought that rural constabluary would been better at handling these interactions, sadly that doesn't seem to always be the case now.

Excellent work by Mike and the rest of the team at BASC, in producing the guide and good too, to see that they're taking a presentation on the road and visiting different Forces across the country. The comment (in an article in the latest copy of the BASC magazine) from a woman police Inspector on Leicester's Armed Response team after watching the BASC presentation, about having no prior knowledge of legal shooting and having received no training (from her Force) in dealing with legit firearms holders, was rather worrying.
 
#4
It seems to go to great lengths so say that most of us shooter are all sneeky barstewards, or should I say "furtive" :batman:

I like the intro "they will probably know far more than you about guns and safety thereof, so keep your gob shut"! :)
 
#5
A long time ago a police firearms bloke came to see me about my application for an FAC/SGC. He sat in my office, resplendent with militaria and mementos of my career. He looked at his notebook and then said "Major Cuddles. Do you have any experience of firearms?" Bless.
 
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Cuddles said:
A long time ago a police firearms bloke came to see me about my application for an FAC/SGC. He sat in my office, resplendent with militaria and mementos of my career. He looked at his notebook and then said "Major Cuddles. Do you have any experience of firearms?" Bless.
Weeeell, you could have just be a walt :rmp:
 
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Cuddles said:
A long time ago a police firearms bloke came to see me about my application for an FAC/SGC. He sat in my office, resplendent with militaria and mementos of my career. He looked at his notebook and then said "Major Cuddles. Do you have any experience of firearms?" Bless.
Avon and Somerset? Many years ago (70s) they were definately OK. Still I suppose he had to ask, probably an idiots guide on how to conduct the proceedings or maybe just "I vos only obeying ze orders".

PS Reminds me of my application for a Webley many years ago, PC Sherlock Holmes who came to see me warned me that it is designed to kill people! :x
 
#8
LEFTY478 said:
Although, you would have thought that rural constabluary would been better at handling these interactions, sadly that doesn't seem to always be the case now.
Too true.
I was asked to shoot deer that were deemed a nuisance,
I prepared a written plan listing targets/weapons etc
The landowner, rather than leave it to me to get clearance, goes to local village station- daytime manned- and gives the plan to the desk civvie who calls the station sgt from back office.

Sgt- based at this village station- says
" Why ask us? Your land , It's up to you who you allow to shoot on your land!"

Oh how the FEO laughed when we met up to check the area :D
 

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#9
There is a good article about this in this issue of Shooting and Conservation.

Worth a look.
 

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#10
What a fantastic article! Gave me a giggle at least. After reading that, I'm tempted to hit the countryside to go 'Shooter Spotting' with my camera. I want to build up a collection of known 'Shooter' species, captured in their natural environment. :soldier:

I think the icing on the cake would be to get them on film whilst actually being predated upon by uniformed 'Gun Maniac Hunters'. :police:

I understand that the 'Deer Stalker' species is particularly difficult to hunt as they are acutely aware of their surroundings whilst foraging for deer, and the slightest wheeze or 'clunk' from a hunting copper is enough to set them on their toes, or worse, have them storming out of the undergrowth with hackles up.
 

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#11
My first FEO was a retired inspector who had done his NS in the Canal Zone, he was very pro shooting and aged 75 took his DSC1. I liked him and he encouraged me into shotguns. His starting shooting conversation always went along the lines of; "You and I have both served and grew up with guns, most of the young coppers nowadays dont have a clue about life let alone taking it! I suggest you treat them with kid golves and eventually they will learn!"
 
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Biped said:
What a fantastic article! Gave me a giggle at least. After reading that, I'm tempted to hit the countryside to go 'Shooter Spotting' with my camera. I want to build up a collection of known 'Shooter' species, captured in their natural environment. :soldier:
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Not if cam and conceal is any good!
 
#13
I think sussex's police finest moment was when they trailed a minesweeper from hastings to pevensy bay and then attempted to arrest members of 5 queens as suspected drug smugglers :?

as drug smugglers tend to go around in big grey ships with the white ensign on the back carrying bergans and dressed in dpm :D
 
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Cuddles said:
A long time ago a police firearms bloke came to see me about my application for an FAC/SGC. He sat in my office, resplendent with militaria and mementos of my career. He looked at his notebook and then said "Major Cuddles. Do you have any experience of firearms?" Bless.
The chap who sorts out SGCs in the Shrewsbury area is ex-army (Blues and Royals IIRC). Nice bloke.

Certificate renewed with no problems!

:D

Rodney2q
 

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#16
I'm still training my FEO. On the odd occasions he pops in, I still have to make the brew for him, not the other way around.
 

ugly

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#17
He'll die of thirst waiting in yours and then on getting it die of botulism or some other jism. That is unless that minxy red haired wench serves and thats why he is willing to wait!
Cert sorted tonight.
 
#19
Had a call from a mate who had just read the guide and found it did not match his experience at all. His version:

Game shooters

These are formal shoots – often quite down-market events despite vast pretentions – which are organised by money grabbing agents

When - during daytime, weather, gloom and bollox transport arrangements permitting

Where - usually on estates, fields and woods which may or may not be suitable for intended purpose in terms of actually containing any game

Wearing - ill-advised tweeds, sweaty waterproof clothing and garish accoutrements

Equipment - unsuitable shotgun, oversized cartridge bag with far too many cartridges or laughable Rambo type belt.

Notes - will have badly trained dogs, surly gamekeeper, grumpy beaters etc. to allegedly support. Vehicles either well past their sell by date or so new and shiney that they get parked up miles away. Not very well organised.
 
#20
Many, many moons ago, when I held an FAC for my target rifles, a WPC paid a visit from Merseyside police, asking to inspect my security arrangements. I happily showed them to her and during the conversation, she dropped this little bombshell

"What's the difference between full bore and small bore then"??????????

Oh how I cringed
 

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