In very large cities? I doubt that there was ever a time when cops knew what was happening in central city areas. And we don’t remotely live in those days now.They used to know who was and wasn't up to no good and it seemed to work just fine. That was when they were a police force not service of course. But what would I know about it eh?
There are YouTube videos by various scrotum heads who go around attempting to carry out a 'first amendment audit' and go around filming things like MOD sites, Police Stations, Prisons, Hospitals, etc. They are aggressive towards Security and Police, demanding their names and numbers but refusing to give their names.
where do you live, Outer Hebrides?rushing from job to job?
where is this hallowed land with a busy and active Police Farce?
never see them these days - it’s the Invisible socially distanced Arm of the Law
If that’s what people want, then so be it.Then taking pictures of buildings or public spaces should be an offence, until it is then the police should ignore it because they don't have the power to stop anyone doing it or demand their details.
And the law says ( i believe ) the police cannot infer suspicion from refusing to identify yourself .
"Everything which is not forbidden ( by law ) is allowed" is a constitutional principle found in the English common law. "
Yes, Birmingham is such a small place, you're right. Everybody knows each other. I'm out.In very large cities? I doubt that there was ever a time when cops knew what was happening in central city areas. And we don’t remotely live in those days now.
However people cling to this rose tinted idea.
Meh, it keeps you in a job, quit whiningPlease allow my point of view - from a 'staff' not frontline role.
Call comes in on 9's. Quick check on the number and it's phoned police 8 times in the past week. Several of those are complaint logs.
Bolshy sounding bloke starts off- sounds like he's reading from a script:
"I want you lot to use these emergency powers and sort this party out thats going on down my street".
Okay. what's your postcode?"
"Never mind that yet-I'll come to that in a minute...I want to know why..."
"Postcode please! I need to know where you are" (I know his address anyway by this stage but still need to verify)
"Don't you shout at me- I'm a member of the public and you have an obligation to listen to me...now under the civil service act I demand to speak to a sergeant now!"
"It doesn't work like that - feel free to lodge a complaint, now where is this party, whats happening and how many people are there?"
"I'm afraid that's a council matter- people are allowed up to 30 people...etc etc"
"(more agitated) Right, whats your name and number?"
"My collar number is12345"
"Whats your name?"
"Youve got my collar number-that will suffice you. Now do you want to take down the council noise nuisance number?"
He then hangs up.
He then made a complaint-which wasn't upheld after the call being listened to and- he was bolshy and overtalking when PSD called him back to explain.
This sort of thing happens multiple times on a daily basis.
Another example - Chardonnay has spotted the woman her ex boyfriend is now seeing out in her car.
Makes an anonymous webform submission stating saw drugs being dealt from the car at X location. Gets a friend to do the same. Guess what happens next....a stop & search at some point.
Fed up with the council not doing anything about your noisy neighbours? No problem, just phone police and say you can hear a domestic going on next door. "Loud music but now I can hear shoutingand it sounds bad".
Police turn up on blue lights to find Mabel and derek have been in bed for 2 hours already and it's likely a hoax call from somebody on the street who had a visits for Covid breach 2 weeks ago...
The general public can be absolute dicks.
Can't recall Mon or Tuesday, but one these days I did get Burger & Chip for lunch!Let me give you a quick run down of my last ten-hour shift.