The police farce.

I think it’s unfortunate that members of the public who wish to show their appreciation of police officers are not allowed to make small gifts such as bacon rolls.

It comes from a lack of ability to apply common sense when deciding if something is corrupt or criminal.

I saw that a police officer, quite a senior one has been reinstated after being sacked because she was convicted of having indecent images of a minor on her phone.

It turns out that these where images she had been sent and had not viewed and was unaware of. It really begs the question of why she was prosecuted and why she was convicted. It would appear to be a complete failure of the justice system to apply common sense.

As for politicians and gifts their TACOS are different. If you don’t like what they do vote for someone else or stand against them.

"It turns out that these where images she had been sent and had not viewed and was unaware of".

And you actually belive that?
 
It does clearly indicate the double standards that exist in public life,

Double standards have been around long before I popped out and started breathing for myself.

Yet it seems you really only get a woody when those double standards appear to be applied to Johnson.

Why would that be ? Did he leave a really big mess on your curtains ?
 

Not seen this on any other media platform... I wonder why?

Perhaps because for every good thing that comes along - Something bad comes along to absolutely trump it.

Police failings on the night of the Manchester Arena bomb cost lives, an inquiry report has found, after two officers on duty took a two-hour break to go for a kebab.

A report into the terror attack which killed 22 people was released on Thursday and heavily criticised “serious shortcomings in the security” on the night of the bombing.


I suppose it will be Johnson's fault that 2 greedy, fat bassa's just had to go for a ******* kebab.
 
But what do these vast majority do as these cops go about their daily corrupt ways? OK, this is a rhetorical question as I know just how difficult it is to live and work with people you suspect of not toeing the line, especially if you get it wrong.
In my experience most complaints against uniformed officers involved excess use of force. Officers who had a tendency to result to excess violence weren't popular with the rest of the relief/team and were regarded as dodgy as they could drag the rest of the team down with them in griefy complaints. Most corruption seemed to involve CID officers in specialist squads such as those in drugs units and involved with informants, mainly because the amount of money involved and close contact with top villians.

For example in the seventies the Met had so many problems with corruption with CID officers in the Vice and Obscene Publications Squad they replaced them all with uniformed officers (though obviously working in plain clothes). They still had DI's and DS's in charge of them though.

One exception to the rule was property officers. A few of them went down for illegally flogging off cash and property from their stores.
 

Green_Homer

War Hero
Perhaps because for every good thing that comes along - Something bad comes along to absolutely trump it.




I suppose it will be Johnson's fault that 2 greedy, fat bassa's just had to go for a ******* kebab.

Right........ So what would 2 unarmed officers armed at most with a single metal pole, a single can of spray and maybe a taser (one officer with nothing but a radio and maybe a camera!) have done IF they confronted a suicide bomber? I would guess that rather that we would be remembering a bombing at the train station rather than the arena. Both very tragic and to be honest in bad taste to use in an argument.

Maybe a better question would be why was the security reliant on 2 officers effectively if the terror threat was deemed so great?

You are also comparing a single act by 2 officers to the thousands of acts taken every day just at the G7 alone by 6500 officers (plus support staff etc)...

St.Ives, Carbis Bay and Lelant G7 Community Forum Is worth a read - Ordinary people leaving unfiltered comments rather than a media slant. I don't see a 1-1 ratio of bad things to trump the positives... Bearing in mind this is a group page largely created for residents to help minimise disruption whilst the event was held I am rather pleasantly surprised at how the police dominate discussion.
 
Right........ So what would 2 unarmed officers armed at most with a single metal pole, a single can of spray and maybe a taser (one officer with nothing but a radio and maybe a camera!) have done IF they confronted a suicide bomber?

Perhaps you should pose that question to Sir John Saunders, Chair of the Public Inquiry.

Perhaps you should also reflect on the bad apples that infest the ranks of the Police Farce and make it into the media almost every day of the week.

The list is endless.

From murder, rape, running brothels, cover ups, domestic abuse and a myriad of others.

And when you are reflecting on the above, perhaps a little thought on how many bad apples do not make it into the media almost everyday. ( because they haven't been caught )

You are also comparing a single act by 2 officers

It might be 2 officers singled out in the report - But they are not the only 2 dragging the Police down.
 

Green_Homer

War Hero
Perhaps you should pose that question to Sir John Saunders, Chair of the Public Inquiry.

Perhaps you should also reflect on the bad apples that infest the ranks of the Police Farce and make it into the media almost every day of the week.

The list is endless.

From murder, rape, running brothels, cover ups, domestic abuse and a myriad of others.

And when you are reflecting on the above, perhaps a little thought on how many bad apples do not make it into the media almost everyday. ( because they haven't been caught )



It might be 2 officers singled out in the report - But they are not the only 2 dragging the Police down.

Well I was asking your opinion as you seem to be an expert...

Sir John Saunders was also quoted as saying:

"Had that occurred, I consider it likely that Salman Abedi would still have detonated his device, but the loss of life and injury is highly likely to have been less."

Sir John was unable to say "with any certainty" what would have happened if those opportunities had not been missed.

Either way tragedy - Personally I do not blame the grieving families, I would be asking and saying the same things if it were me. But, would you be blaming the officers on the ground if they had been there, had challenged him and he killed other people instead? Would the other people killed be less important than the ones killed on the day?

Coulda woulda and shoulda are amazing words which I'm sure the two officers mentioned will be torturing themselves to the rest of their days. Personally I have been in the right place and the right time to prevent (far) too many people from doing things such as throwing themselves in front of trains.

Sadly I happened to be in the wrong place, at the wrong time once and for the sake of 10mins was unable to prevent a young man from hanging himself. Despite over 40mins of CPR between myself and my fellow officers, and then having to witness the painful howls of his mother and aunt who turned up to the scene insisting on seeing his body - This was now 9yrs ago and I was only 6 weeks on the job, the banshee howl of the mother sticks in my head to this day.
 

Not seen this on any other media platform... I wonder why?

Possibly because a lot of people would rather have coppers protecting law abiding, tax-paying citizens rather than the world's most expensive circle-jerk?
 
Well I was asking your opinion as you seem to be an expert...

Expert ?

I don't think anyone needs to be an expert to understand where / why or how, the label ' Police Farce ' came about.

Daily reports across the UK MSM seems to reinforce this.

Or perhaps these......

The list is endless.

From murder, rape, running brothels, cover ups, domestic abuse and a myriad of others.

...... Never really happened and it's all a conspiracy to paint the Police in a bad light :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
Expert ?

I don't think anyone needs to be an expert to understand where / why or how, the label ' Police Farce ' came about.

Daily reports across the UK MSM seems to reinforce this.

Or perhaps these......



...... Never really happened and it's all a conspiracy to paint the Police in a bad light :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

How many murders, rapes, cover ups, brothels and DA incidents are committed per head of police officers and staff and over what period?

How does that compare to say the military community, or any other demographic?

Can you list the myriad other please?
 
Sadly I happened to be in the wrong place, at the wrong time once and for the sake of 10mins was unable to prevent a young man from hanging himself. Despite over 40mins of CPR between myself and my fellow officers, and then having to witness the painful howls of his mother and aunt who turned up to the scene insisting on seeing his body - This was now 9yrs ago and I was only 6 weeks on the job, the banshee howl of the mother sticks in my head to this day.

It is a strange thing the way that sticks in your head. 31 years ago I was on a cordon when a woman arrived at the scene of her husband's murder. I can still recall how she sounded exactly.
 
How does that compare to say the military community, or any other demographic?

This is the Police Farce thread.

Not the whataboutery comparison thread.

Domestic violence

Police forces have received more than 800 allegations of domestic abuse against officers over the past five years, an investigation has found.

Of the 829 allegations of domestic abuse made against police officers or staff since 2015, only 43 (five per cent) resulted in prosecution, lower than the rate against members of the public (nine per cent).


Prosecutions are the numbers that matter.
 

Bee Companeeee

Old-Salt
The original post by the Police highlighted that they had mocked the picture up in the rear yard of a Police Station to highlight it was illegal to ride these scooters on the road (unless hired as part of a trial scheme) and that they had seized one from someone using it illegally and were prepared to do so again. A load of FaceBook mongs failed to read it correctly and started smashing the buttons. The Daily Wail published another Police knocking story written by a journo who either never read the original source or checked the facts or if they did wilfully ignored them.
 
This is the Police Farce thread.

Not the whataboutery comparison thread.

Domestic violence




Prosecutions are the numbers that matter.

So, 800 allegations over 5 years for a workforce of approx 200,000. 160 allegations per year divided into 200k

Allegations mind you. How does that compare to the population at large?

PSD and IOPC are unlikely to go easy on any police officer accused of a criminal offence.
 
This is the Police Farce thread.

Not the whataboutery comparison thread.

Domestic violence




Prosecutions are the numbers that matter.

Prosecutions are linked to the evidence available. Insufficient evidence, I sufficient prosecutions.
 
Prosecutions are linked to the evidence available. Insufficient evidence, I sufficient prosecutions.

That cannot be correct, can it ?

Evidence is not required - Verbal testimony or a verbal claim is sufficient, is it not ?

Or would you like to revisit your written testimony over on the Boris Grrrrr thread ?
 
That cannot be correct, can it ?

Evidence is not required - Verbal testimony or a verbal claim is sufficient, is it not ?

Or would you like to revisit your written testimony over on the Boris Grrrrr thread ?

Where did I say that evidence wasn’t required?

Where did I say that one persons oral evidence was enough on its own to prove a point?

That doesn’t stop a persons oral evidence being evidence. The corroborating WhatsApp messages however seem to back up the oral evidence.

I suspect more to be on the way from Cummings.
 
That cannot be correct, can it ?

Evidence is not required - Verbal testimony or a verbal claim is sufficient, is it not ?

Or would you like to revisit your written testimony over on the Boris Grrrrr thread ?

800 allegations over 5 years for a workforce over 200k with very few being actually substantiated.

That’s a more accurate headline. I would be much more worried if there were no allegations.
 

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