The police farce.

They didn't actually look like they wanted to do their job to be honest.

Agreed. Particularly the second lassie, who couldn't even be bothered to break into a run.

Reminded me of the first City Watch book, where Vimes and Colon have just finished burying one of their colleagues who broke the first rule of policing in Ankh-Morpork: never run so fast you might actually catch the criminals who are trying to escape.
 

Cromarty

War Hero
If I see someone in danger of serious harm, whether it's a copper or a member of the public, I will help to the best of my limited ability. I've done so in the past and would again.

The coppers in the video you're crying about were not in serious danger. The only injuries they sustained is to their egos. If two fully trained police officers, each carrying batons, spray and cuffs, cannot restrain one man, then I'm not going to do their job for them.

Of course you did.
 
Of course you did.

I helped a polis Scotland officer restrain a shoplifter who had just knocked out two of the copper's teeth with a headbutt. The copper was bleeding and in a lot of pain, and the scroat was still hitting him when I blindsided him, slammed him onto the pavement and sat my fat arse on him until the copper was able to get him in a restrain hold. We dragged him through the shop into the offices. Where the copper, quite by accident, banged the scroat's head on the door frame. Luckily he was already bleeding from the headbutt. ;)

Frankly, though, I couldn't care less if you believe me or not. If you and the two bints in the video are what passes for coppers these days, God help us.
 
I’d be cautious about coming to the aid of a constable (despite, IIRC, it being an offence not to) not just because I’m a big fat scaredy-cat but also in case the scrote involved tried to sue me for any injuries sustained...
 
I’d be cautious about coming to the aid of a constable (despite, IIRC, it being an offence not to) not just because I’m a big fat scaredy-cat but also in case the scrote involved tried to sue me for any injuries sustained...
One would like to hope that the Police would support you, as it’s an offence to not assist a Police Officer, but only if they ask you for help
 
I’ve never known a single member of the public get prosecuted or sued for trying to help a cop or for intervening and trying to detain an offender or stop an offence happening.

I’m sure that someone can dig up an outlier that proves me wrong.
 
That makes me fxcking angry! People would rather video it and post for cretins to ‘Like’ than lend a hand
Getting an arm round his neck and slamming him to the ground would have probably got you an assault charge. I stepped into a domestic in a pub and got a teeny stab in the hand from a knife aimed at my stomach. He got a a let off as the licencee was ex cid,and sent off in a taxi after going nuts with a chiefs knife. He went on to kill his girlfriend and hung himself. I probably would have gone to help those two girls but the road to hell etc.
 
I’ve never known a single member of the public get prosecuted or sued for trying to help a cop or for intervening and trying to detain an offender or stop an offence happening.

I’m sure that someone can dig up an outlier that proves me wrong.
That’s not what the daily Mail says.......

Which makes sense because the Daily Mail is full of bollocks
Any such case usually has more to it then they put in the story
 

Niamac

GCM
I helped a polis Scotland officer restrain a shoplifter who had just knocked out two of the copper's teeth with a headbutt. The copper was bleeding and in a lot of pain, and the scroat was still hitting him when I blindsided him, slammed him onto the pavement and sat my fat arse on him until the copper was able to get him in a restrain hold. We dragged him through the shop into the offices. Where the copper, quite by accident, banged the scroat's head on the door frame. Luckily he was already bleeding from the headbutt. ;)

Frankly, though, I couldn't care less if you believe me or not. If you and the two bints in the video are what passes for coppers these days, God help us.
I detained a drunken ned for criminal damage to a neighbour's fence and when the Glasgow Polis turned up they opened the back of the Land Rover and threw him bodily into the back. He bounced off the bulkhead and landed in a heap on the vehicle floor. The Sergeant, who was not the type you would argue with, turned and said. "Thank you, sir. You'll hear no more about it."

Police have changed it appears.
 
This seems as good a thread as any to drop this post in.... been sent this link by an ex-plod friend and I suspect it sums up the feelings of a large number of decent serving officers of a certain age who just despair at their lot. Attacked if they do, attacked if they don't, and I'm sure this missive apparently from a serving officer is doing the rounds on their group chats ....and others may be joining him as he presses the Exit button.. frankly, who can blame them....
(reproduced below for those who may be unable to follow the link)

I’m done​

A police officer wrote this on March 15, 2021 at 5:27 pm. I’ve reproduced it here because I found it humbling, worrying and really quite frightening.

‘I’m a cop of 20 years. I’m leaving. I’m done.

I’m done with the duplicitous liars and twisters of truth in Parliament, who have destroyed policing in order to further their own careers. I’m done with those charlatans and snake oil salesmen and women who spread their bile, whose acid eats away at society and it’s values and future. I’m done with the utter lack of consequences for their corruption.

I’m done with duplicitous liars and twisters of truth in the media and “journalism” with their spin, lies, misrepresentation and half truths. I’m done with their 24 hours news, their twitter echo chambers, their pile on tactics and agendas, in order to invent the next “big” story or extend the life of the old one. I’m done with their sickening pretence that they are on some crusade to make the world a better place.

I’m done with the socially corrosive special interest groups who want to be top of the victimhood ladder and are prepared to burn the world and anyone different to them, to ensure they are heard above anyone else. Their constant screaming for attention and ever more fantastical claims, that bear no scrutiny, but which they know they will never be challenged on, because, you know “cancel culture”.

I’m done with the public, their violence, their lying, their abuse, their spitting, their constant screaming for instant gratification and destruction of anything and everyone around them if they don’t get their own way, like a bunch of petulant adolescents. I’m done with their demand for every right real or imagined and their utter lack of personal or social responsibility to each other.

I’m done with the senior officers who will jump on any bandwagon, throw any officer under a bus for doing their job, do anything at all to get that next rank and more power. I’m done with them pretending to be cops, when they are just politicians in uniform. At least real politicians don’t seek to hide their stench and are there for all the world to see, in all their obnoxious, odious glory.

I’m done with the far left and far right, two sides of the same violent, socially corrosive and destructive coin, trampling over anyone and everyone, destroying anything in their paths, if it doesn’t conform to the “right” narrative or world view. I’m done with their red and black flags, their balaclavas, their violence, bullying and intimidation. I’m done with them calling themselves Nazis or Antifa and pretending they are any different to the opposition. I’m done with their anti locution and persecution of anyone that isn’t on their side. I’m done with their cheerleaders in the media, who adopt their cause but absolve themselves of any responsibility for the harm they cause.

I’m done with the Soviet era scale bureaucracy that stops me doing my job, the projects that strangely never fail, the nepotism in the promotion boards and the boys and girls clubs in policing that look after each other, no matter how incompetent and screw everyone else who isn’t in their gang. I’m done with their self promoting cliques and associations, they hide behind when they are professionally incompetent, but always useful for a photo opportunity to make the force look good with whatever group is having their week or is fashionable that day.

I’m done with the (few) corrupt cops who drag all our names through the mud and the false narrative that the vast majority of front line cops are tainted.

I’m done seeing my brothers and sisters on the front line battered, criticised, unsupported and demoralised. I’m done with their fortitude, inherent goodness and sense of service, that makes them run forward, knowing the armchair critics will crucify them after. I’m done with their false hope that things will improve, that society will value them. I’m done with them being lied to by our leaders and then lying to themselves, that, maybe, just maybe, this time those leaders can be trusted, I’m done with seeing those youngster suffer and age far too fast as a decent life passes them by as they waste their lives on this.


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I’m done with grandstanding cops, dancing for YouTube, wearing rainbows as self promotion, kneeling for a twitter photo, lecturing the public about things that shouldn’t concern us, forgetting we are the law police, not the public morals police, Im done with them doing anything other rather than actual policing. I’m done with the false narrative that suggests this is the norm and that all cops are more interested in being woke social workers than doing their job. A false narrative we have facilitated by allowing this self indulgent, shameless self promotion of a few individuals, to proliferate.

I’m done with cops being told they are somehow lesser without a degree and that instincts are bias and bad. That experience and street knowledge is discriminatory. I’m done with the lies that the College of Policing is on our side. That the courts value and support us. That the IOPC isn’t an insidiously untrustworthy organisation out to get us. That the HMIC understands policing.

I’m done with the anxiety, the anger, the constant state of heightened arousal in case of danger, even when I should be feeling safe in my own home. I’m done with the corrosive damage to my physical and mental health, sacrificed for a country and public, serving both in green and blue, for a country that couldn’t give a toss.

I’m done with the deaths, the suffering, the violence, the dishonesty, the predatory behaviour and all the other public faeces that you ask us to clean up.

I’m done with the the indescribable levels of frustration, rage, hate and despair that all the above has filled my life with, when all I wanted to do was look after the good people and lock up the bad. I’m done with the cynicism and distrust that it’s left me and the times I’ve put my family last, to ensure I was there for someone else’s. I’m done with the pain it causes them to see what this job does to us.

I'm a cop of 20 years and I'm done with it. Sort your own mess up. Or don't, and let it all collapse around you.


I’m done, and really don’t care anymore.’


This frightens me, and it should frighten you.

I hope it’s not to late to remind the few, when ill of them they speak,

That they are all that stands between the monsters and the weak.
 

PhotEx

On ROPS
On ROPs
I'm a cop of 20 years and I'm done with it. Sort your own mess up. Or don't, and let it all collapse around you.

the Police have only been around slightly longer than the RAF, and just like them, we managed just fine before we got professional amateurs on the case.

That they are all that stands between the monsters and the weak.

PC Wayne Couzens is on remand now, that’s one of the monsters off the streets.
 
A little cracker from the Chief Constable of Norfolk.

Parents should report their own children to the police if they learn they may have perpetrated sexual assaults, a senior police officer has said.


It is perfectly feasible that I might give one of my off spring a kicking for committing a crime. It is also feasible that I might give them a kicking and drag them down the cop shop if they had committed a very, very serious crime.

If I learned that they might have committed a crime, I would be doing nothing other than asking some questions.

This readers, is the mentality of the upper echelons of the police and why the police get ridiculed.
 

Chef

LE
A little cracker from the Chief Constable of Norfolk.




It is perfectly feasible that I might give one of my off spring a kicking for committing a crime. It is also feasible that I might give them a kicking and drag them down the cop shop if they had committed a very, very serious crime.

If I learned that they might have committed a crime, I would be doing nothing other than asking some questions.

This readers, is the mentality of the upper echelons of the police and why the police get ridiculed.
Simon Bailey is the national police lead for child protection. He says:

Amid controversy over how police treat sexual abuse survivors and investigate their allegations, Bailey vowed: “Every victim who comes forward will be believed, will be listened to and dealt with sensitively.”

Have the police learned nothing from Op Midland and Carl Beech? How the hell did anybody from the police press office let that one through?

Is the whole command structure as clever as this one?
 

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