The Philippines an inherent part of China's sovereign territory

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  1. Rayc

    Rayc RIP

    The Philippines an inherent part of China's sovereign territory

    China Central Television (CCTV) newsreader mistakenly declares that the Philippines is an inherent part of China's sovereign territory (at 1'35"). Oops!

    Oops of the Day: CCTV anchor He Jia mistakenly declares (at 1'35"): "As we all know, the Philippines is Chinese territory. China has unquestionable sovereignty over the Philippines." The video went viral shortly after it first appeared on Sina Weibo, and was quickly scrubbed off the CCTV website.
  2. Rayc

    Rayc RIP

    It is common knowledge that in 1959 Mao Zedong said: “Our goal is the whole wide world . .. where we will create a mighty state" and that in 1965 he presented China with the task of “absolutely getting hold of Southeast Asia" in the near future. And today, far from disavowing these and similar statements, Peking uses them as a guide. Politics, propaganda and armed force combine to further Maoist foreign policy doctrines, in a range of ploys which extends from historical fabrications and the publication of maps showing the “lost Chinese lands" to armed provocation and outright aggression against neighbouring states......

    A maiden work of this order was Su Yen-tsung’s The General Tendency of the Modification of China’s Borders, [249•22 which was published shortly after the Hsinhai revolution. Coming after it, Hua Chi-yun’s China’s Borders [249•23 gained wide currency. Indeed, its author, possibly the Kuomintang’s leading authority in the field, completed his treatise in the spring of 1930, shortly after the Kuomintang provocations on the Chinese Eastern Railway, the raids on Soviet territory, and the rupture of SovietChinese relations. Hua Chi-yun’s conceptions, which reflected the official moods.

    Hua Chi-yun advocated the thesis of the need to “return” to China the lands it had “lost”. He claimed that “China’s old borders" had embraced vast territories extending from Kamchatka to Singapore and from Lake Balkhash to the Philippines. Korea, Burma, Vietnam, and Bhutan were seen as “conceded tributaries”, which had been within the “old borders”. Considerable tracts of Soviet Far Eastern territory along with the Island of Sakhalin, part of Kazakhstan and the Soviet Central Asian republics, sections of Afghan and Indian territory, and the Ryukyu Archipelago were also included among China’s “losses”. The Mongolian People’s Republic was generally ignored as a sovereign state and was designated as within China’s contemporary borders. Maritime boundaries stretched hundreds and thousands of miles away from the mainland, taking in the islands of the East China and South China Seas. The special map appended to the chapter, “Revision of Frontiers and Lost 250 Territories”, illustrated this projected programme of territorial aggrandisement.
  3. China can bugger orf. Phils is prime poontang land and about due another visit.
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  4. Being married to a Filippina and having been there and met those of my inlaws who've served, I would recomend the PLA do a little reading on who the Japs fared when the were visiting between 1942-45.
  5. Why is it Evil B'stards from China are always Doctors, No & Fu Manchu to start off the yellow pearl bashing.

    Is there any proof that Chinese explorers settled there.
  6. Or at least how they fared. I worked with a team of Phils army officers in the Oman desert a couple of years back. Nails they are.
  7. I believe that the Chinese settled in Scotland a few centuries ago, which accounts for some of the black haired little slanty eyed Jocks one sees about the place. They must have taken slaves back to Ba Tau land too as there is evidence of a ginger haired tartan wearing tribe somewhere in China.
  8. Seeing as Taiwan has been an inherent part of China's sovereign territory for 65 years and they've yet to get around to invading, the Phillipines should be OK for the moment.
  9. You might as well say the Philippines belong to the U.S. as they were a colony of ours after we licked the Spaniards in the Spanish-American War. We gave them independence in 1946 but we like to keep a friendly eye on them and of course we have a bunch of THEM patrolling with the Philippines Marines to keep the Islamist terrorists' head down. ;-) I don't think China would want to start anything with their biggest debtor (Obummer likes to keep using that Bank of China ATM card. )

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  10. It's all about the inner and outer "string of pearls" strategy, played over a long period of time; that, and boosting their deep-water naval capability.
  11. seaweed

    seaweed LE Book Reviewer

    China's historical perspective has always been that non-Chinese are whatever untermensch translates to. Their treatment of Lord Macartney's mission in 1793 illustrated this perfectly.
  12. The Macartney mission was just the latest in a long line of entreaties and incidentally the refusal of his petition didn't stop them from trading either with Britain or other European nations. He was after the same sort of favourable trading nation status that the Portuguese and Dutch already enjoyed, as well as some rights to trade directly with the interior.

    If you want an analogy, the Qianlong Emperor found himself in the position of a man who'd invited a double-glazing salesman in, listened to the pitch, politely declined, been given some more flannel, declined again and just when he'd thought he'd finally got the message across the salesman says, "Right, fair enough. Now I'll just go and talk to everyone else in the house, just to be sure they don't want one".

    Macartney'd been sent their to rescue the EIC's China trade and failed miserably because we could only offer manufactures they didn't want and not the silver they were after. The other European trading nations could offer silver in large quantities and so they got the trade instead. Given the domestic political pressures to send the mission in the first place, he could hardly rock up back home and say, "Sorry lads, we just aren't offering anything they want".

    Incidentally, the most common Mandarin slang for foreigner is 'laowei'. The particular 'lao' means 'old' and is used as a term of respect. 'Waiguoren' is relatively common and just means 'outside-person'. Compared to 'God is an Englishman' or that Cecil Rhodes quote, it seems pretty innocuous.
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  13. Rayc

    Rayc RIP

    Gweilo or Gwailo (鬼佬; Cantonese gwai2 lou2, pronounced [kʷɐ̌i lǒu]) is a common Cantonese slang term for foreigners although this does not apply to many other Asian races, and has a long history of racially deprecatory use.

    Gwai Lo (gui lao in mandarin) (鬼佬) literally means "ghost man". The term is sometimes translated into English as foreign devil. The term arose in the 16th century when European sailors appeared in southern China as they were associated with barbarians. Historically, Chinese people had the image of its borders continuously breached by "uncivilized tribes" given to mayhem and destruction.

    Gweilo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

  14. Ah yes, MacArthur. "I shall return (but, um, you guys can stay ... the Japs will look after you)"

    Gordon Bennett!