The Paras: Men of War - New ITV Series

Commenting from an (almost) layperson's point of view - I wonder what the programme makers were hoping to portray?

"The Paras" surely indicates that they want to come across as something a bit special, and rightly so , but I saw nothing in last night's programme (unless I dozed off for a few seconds) that deviated from any other basic training.

I appreciate that the specialised stuff comes later, but it wasn't a promising portrayal.
I was just wondering about the “men of war” bit. Ok, some soldiers might have more aptitude for the sharp end than others. But by definition, surely all soldiers are “men (or women!) of war”?
I suppose it might have been used to differentiate this programme from ones which preceded it but it looked a bit naff.
 

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I was just wondering about the “men of war” bit. Ok, some soldiers might have more aptitude for the sharp end than others. But by definition, surely all soldiers are “men (or women!) of war”?
I suppose it might have been used to differentiate this programme from ones which preceded it but it looked a bit naff.
Yep exactly. I sometimes wonder if I'm losing my marbles, but then I just remind myself it's all about TV ratings. :D
 
This " killing machines" bollocks is what lost me a cushy job interview as a walking guide for the lake district national parks authority.

The minute I mentioned the Parachute Regiment they closed my CV , and started looking for the exits.
 
This " killing machines" bollocks is what lost me a cushy job interview as a walking guide for the lake district national parks authority.

The minute I mentioned the Parachute Regiment they closed my CV , and started looking for the exits.
It’s a matter of gauging your audience mate. If your interview panel had included a couple of guys with regi ties and polished shoes, they’d have possibly seen a fit, resourceful character who was likely to do a professional job. Yours sounds like it consisted of a couple of vegans, wearing Crocs and macrame clothes and whiffing slightly of patchouli and sour armpit.
I made the same mistake mentioning NI in a university application. The cnuts thought I was about to go postal in the interview.
 
This " killing machines" bollocks is what lost me a cushy job interview as a walking guide for the lake district national parks authority.

The minute I mentioned the Parachute Regiment they closed my CV , and started looking for the exits.
It does happen and while it's not okay to discriminate on their list of pet passions: it's okay for their double standards to discriminate against the easy targets where they won't usually get into trouble. A plague on their grollies I say, but yes there are civvies "who know best" making snap judgements about ex-forces - full time or deployed Reserve - being 'messed up' from Ops. Or they're "unsuitable" due to imagined risks.

Fortunately some of us can retire early, legally, and comfortably. We don't have to deal with these arrseholes. But yes these thick ignorant feckers keep popping up occasionally. They're usually frightened of harming their business and of changing their prejudiced narrow mindset.
 
Bloke gets back squadded, with platoon in two months time? Bloody hell, what ever happened to pack your kit and go downstairs to the platoon behind. Army recruitment cutbacks maybe?
Does he go into a holding plt whilst waiting to restart then? If yes, then by the time he restarts he should have his weapons handling and phys well sorted. Even though he may not appreciate it, it sounds like a good opportunity to me.

In my day it was just a case of moving your kit downstairs.
 
At what time in training do they pass off the square, and stop calling out the time? IIRC, they went from week 1, day 1 to week 10 in less than half an hour. Never saw them get issued kit, get shouted at on the square, running routes, or gym, The Saffer had his leaving interview with the OC at week 10, but was still calling out the time.

Enjoyed watching it.
Used to be 6 weeks I think. Unless you were a complete throbber, in which case it might never end.
 
At what time in training do they pass off the square, and stop calling out the time? IIRC, they went from week 1, day 1 to week 10 in less than half an hour. Never saw them get issued kit, get shouted at on the square, running routes, or gym, The Saffer had his leaving interview with the OC at week 10, but was still calling out the time.

Enjoyed watching it.
This will have to be signed off by the MoD before it can be aired, the things you mention are not conducive to recruiting in the eyes of the establishment considering the current recruiting campaign.
 
This " killing machines" bollocks is what lost me a cushy job interview as a walking guide for the lake district national parks authority.

The minute I mentioned the Parachute Regiment they closed my CV , and started looking for the exits.
@StBob072 @guzzijon

Although, EVERYTIME he spoke to camera, the Tp commander (Lt? Capt?), did seem to repeat the mantra . . "We close with the enemy, and kill them".

It was so NOT "PC", that I was both surprised, AND pleased that - finally - someone, somewhere, was telling-it-like-it-is ;) .
 
It’s a matter of gauging your audience mate. If your interview panel had included a couple of guys with regi ties and polished shoes, they’d have possibly seen a fit, resourceful character who was likely to do a professional job. Yours sounds like it consisted of a couple of vegans, wearing Crocs and macrame clothes and whiffing slightly of patchouli and sour armpit.
I made the same mistake mentioning NI in a university application. The cnuts thought I was about to go postal in the interview.
To be fair I would have left any slackers for the buzzards.
 
Given the condensed programming i.e. three episodes (the 1980's Para's series was 7 or 8 I think) they have had to gloss over all the beastings, drill and BS that goes on in the first few weeks and they clearly wanted people happy to go in front of the camera...the saffer fanny for one. All in all it gave a good feel for depot life as a Joe. Episode 2 appears to focus on the build up to and P Coy events so I'm guessing it'll ramp up a bit. I've seen an image of the lad who was back-squaded with a 3 Para DZ flash so assume he got through.

In my time in Depot Para (1983-4) everyone was either 'Joe' or 'Joe Crow'...didn't ask why or where it came from, just got on with it.
 
If a baby Para was actually had the first name of Joe, I think there's a small risk that he would feel the instructors are being very friendly towards him, if a bit shouty.
Better than being Private 'Corridor' or Private 'Body'
 

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