The only thing I like about septics.

#1
I watched "Cops" on sky one, a "documentary" about our UK police force. A few things struck me:

1. In America, the idea of making a programme which identifies a police officer as being helpess, would not happen.

2. In America, if a police officer tells you to stop and you run, he/she can shoot you.

3. Most footage shown on our Cop type shows results in the offender being cautioned and released, which makes for frustrating viewing.

I'm not looking to fire up the outrage bus, but I honestly believe that giving all police officers pistols (possibly even BB firing / paintball) would do more good than harm for the image of our currently underpowered crime fighters.

On a seperate note I travelled to work this morning behind a van that was in the centre of the road this morning. We approached a School zone where he began mounting kerbs and swerving about. My attempts to flash this driver and beckon him to pull over failed. On arriving at work I rang the local plod to make them aware (in case the car was stolen or the driver was medically in need of attention). I was informed that unless I had witnesses there nothing that the police could do.

How can the police change to present an image of power, as opposed to an image of weakness / politically correct restraint?

MB
 
#2
It's not pistols they need but a criminal justice system that convicts people and gives them a deterrent punishment. American police can act with such swagger because they know that the criminals will be prosecuted and that there is plenty of room in prison. British police are timorous and weak, in large part because they know that courts are weak and punishments derisory for the most part.

I dare say they'd buck their ideas up a bit if the criminals were actually scared of them.
 
#4
I'm not looking to fire up the outrage bus, but I honestly believe that giving all police officers pistols (possibly even BB firing / paintball) would do more good than harm for the image of our currently underpowered crime fighters.
WTF? How about rubber truncheons and chocolate handcuffs as well!
 
#7
Porn, I have to admit the yanks do some good porn
 
#9
What's the one that doesn't leave a mark?
Those paintballs are greasy inside, I wonder if that's Halal/Kosher, perhaps, in keeping with the recent traditions of the police force and in the interests of pointlessness, we need to develop a puckle paintball gun, with cube shaped paintballs full of rancid bacon fat.
 
#10
I love the place, it is hilarious. Last time I was in California I was in proximity to a couple of street murders and the busted Bear state was laying off the "swaggering" cops in the same rather gentile area. Their overstuffed klinks are full of mostly harmless, overwhelmingly dusky drug offenders and were costing the tax payer more than their once world class but now failing school system.

That magnificently expensive US justice system currently holds about 3% of the working population, it's soared 240% since the 80s, 60% of that population is classified as non-violent. The incarceration rate doesn't even track violent crime, that peaked in 92 with the crack epidemic and the growth of the cash free economy. It's happened against the advice of area experts largely as a result of lazy, populist, fear driven politics and the vigorous lobbying of the prison unions/owners now eagerly figuring out ways to maximize profits off banged up wetbacks in several red states. There no evidence all that longterm incarceration has much effect on crime but it depresses their high unemployment rate that in real terms is now about twice that of the UK and handily stops a lot of pissed off poor folks voting. The US still has a murder rate about five times the UKs, so hey what's not to like?

Mexico is even more fun.

In contrast England is a bit of a boring bog hole enlivened only by outbursts recreational looting and drunken slappers pissing on the sidewalk.
 
#11
I love the place, it is hilarious. Last time I was in California I was in proximity to a couple of street murders and the busted Bear state was laying off the "swaggering" cops in the same rather gentile area. Their overstuffed klinks are full of mostly harmless, overwhelmingly dusky drug offenders and were costing the tax payer more than their once world class but now failing school system.

That magnificently expensive US justice system currently holds about 3% of the working population, it's soared 240% since the 80s, 60% of that population is classified as non-violent. The incarceration rate doesn't even track violent crime, that peaked in 92 with the crack epidemic and the growth of the cash free economy. It's happened against the advice of area experts largely as a result of lazy, populist, fear driven politics and the vigorous lobbying of the prison unions/owners now eagerly figuring out ways to maximize profits off banged up wetbacks in several red states. There no evidence all that longterm incarceration has much effect on crime but it depresses their high unemployment rate that in real terms is now about twice that of the UK and handily stops a lot of pissed off poor folks voting. The US still has a murder rate about five times the UKs, so hey what's not to like?

Mexico is even more fun.

In contrast England is a bit of a boring bog hole enlivened only by outbursts recreational looting and drunken slappers pissing on the sidewalk.
all i really took from that is that i think i might be developing piss fetish
 
#13
all i really took from that is that i think i might be developing piss fetish
You might like glamorous San Francisco's Tenderloin, short of Salford on a Friday night I've never seen as many hefty lasses casually making water al fresco.
 
#14
fat birds dont do it for me, i might have a few kinks but i've still got standards*!



*ugly/burned/missing limb etc is fine but i'm not a fan of the beefers
 
#15
Considering there are 3 times as many more young blacks in prison in the States than there are black college students (and almost the same goes for Hispanics with 2.7 to 1) then no wonder the prison service costs more than their education system.
It's a while since I visited the States but on my last visit to Washington there were 13 murders that weekend all within a square mile of the Capitol. Plus the last time I went to New Orleans (pre-Hurricane Katrina) whilst the French Quarter and surrounds were well policed, there were 8 murders on the fringes of it.
Los Angeles police were crowing about the fact that there were only 314 murders there last year compared with 1,200 in 1992.
However, the UK has nothing to crow about as the number of murders in 2009 was 614 which is almost exactly double that of 1962. Now, the fact we still had hanging in 1962 may, or may not, have anything to do with it but I feel that the average "life" sentence of 13.7 years may have.
 
#17
I watched "Cops" on sky one, a "documentary" about our UK police force. A few things struck me:

1. In America, the idea of making a programme which identifies a police officer as being helpess, would not happen.

2. In America, if a police officer tells you to stop and you run, he/she can shoot you.

3. Most footage shown on our Cop type shows results in the offender being cautioned and released, which makes for frustrating viewing.

I'm not looking to fire up the outrage bus, but I honestly believe that giving all police officers pistols (possibly even BB firing / paintball) would do more good than harm for the image of our currently underpowered crime fighters.

On a seperate note I travelled to work this morning behind a van that was in the centre of the road this morning. We approached a School zone where he began mounting kerbs and swerving about. My attempts to flash this driver and beckon him to pull over failed. On arriving at work I rang the local plod to make them aware (in case the car was stolen or the driver was medically in need of attention). I was informed that unless I had witnesses there nothing that the police could do.

How can the police change to present an image of power, as opposed to an image of weakness / politically correct restraint?

MB


Stop reporting my rape van!. its hard to drive and grope!!!
 
#18
Police Prisoner vans are all full.

As such our bosses ask us to consider "Other means of disposal" such as Fixed Penalties, Restorative Justice (An Apology) but most definately not discretion no matter how minor. All incidents must have a positive outcome or remain open "Pending further evidence coming to light."

Police Cells and Custody Suites are full.

Now we meet the first real hurdle. The CPS who are actively encouraged to bin all jobs without a near guaranteed chance of success at court. As such the victims of those crimes that don't get through don't even get their day in court.

The Courts are full.

I am in court next month for an arrest made in February. Even if they found him guilty the couldn't and wouldn't send him to prison. How could they after he has been trusted to stay on the streets for 8 months by the criminal justice system.

However lets just pretend they actually want to put him in prison...

The Prisons are full.

Which wouldn't be so bad if those that were in there were suffering a meaningful and uncomfortable punishment. When going to prison the ironic thing is the only real punishment our criminal justice system can give is by putting you in a position where you may become the victim of a violent/sex crime committed by, yes you've guessed it, a criminal.

The real problem isn't getting them caught and found guilty. It's getting them punished.

Don't give the police firearms. Give the Prison Service a cold Scottish Island and a longer amount of time to punish their "Service Users."
 
#19
Considering there are 3 times as many more young blacks in prison in the States than there are black college students (and almost the same goes for Hispanics with 2.7 to 1) then no wonder the prison service costs more than their education system.
It's a while since I visited the States but on my last visit to Washington there were 13 murders that weekend all within a square mile of the Capitol. Plus the last time I went to New Orleans (pre-Hurricane Katrina) whilst the French Quarter and surrounds were well policed, there were 8 murders on the fringes of it.
Los Angeles police were crowing about the fact that there were only 314 murders there last year compared with 1,200 in 1992.
However, the UK has nothing to crow about as the number of murders in 2009 was 614 which is almost exactly double that of 1962. Now, the fact we still had hanging in 1962 may, or may not, have anything to do with it but I feel that the average "life" sentence of 13.7 years may have.
The population has increased by 11million since 1962, the US has the death penalty, should be the safest place in the world!
Crime figure per capita % wise have increased with population size and are pretty much as they have been since the Industrial Revolution, fear of crime, well that's a different story.
As for the Spam programme, I think it's childish the way criminals are made out to be grotesqely stupid and all police to be heroic just my opinion mind.
 
#20
The population has increased by 11million since 1962, the US has the death penalty, should be the safest place in the world!
Crime figure per capita % wise have increased with population size and are pretty much as they have been since the Industrial Revolution, fear of crime, well that's a different story.
As for the Spam programme, I think it's childish the way criminals are made out to be grotesqely stupid and all police to be heroic just my opinion mind.
Yes but what proportion of those on Death Row actually get executed, for the death penalty to be effective it can't be held up for decades by legal appeals or until the inmate dies of old age. It needs to be quick and decisive.
 

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