Mate, the Kiwis are 'ard as nails and a very good army. They're the South Sea Poms so that should tell you how they train, operate etc. But, they are paid feck all (operationally wise), (unless that's changed lately) and there are feck all of them. Most of them pull the pin and join the Australian Army. Not what you're after as you'll be in the land of the long white cloud. I have many a mate from the Kiwi Army, top lads and well trained.
I assume this is the info you're after. Or you could try the linky
Thank you i was only seeing what my options were, because i have completed all my selection in Britain, a cross road situation but if you think ill bee a total tool il sack it, stay in Britain sorry if iv annoyed you (especialy down under)
I'm not an officer- but a senior rank and am thinking of joining either NZ or Aus on leaving British Army after 22 years. I've read the recruiting pages for both and have spoken to various people who have given me mixed messages- mainly that to sack the NZ and go for Aus because its loads easier.- I can't carry my pension over, Its a nightmare getting citizenship and all the usual bumpf!! Can anyone give me a real version thats easy to follow and un biased??
One thing that I noticed about the NZ Army was that it is so small that there was no where to hide the idiots that you find in any organization. In the Brit Army they are usually hidden at a quiet trials unit or cadet laiason team or the like but in NZ the idiots find their way into positions where they can do harm and maybe wreck others careers. As for the army in general, the soldiers tend to be first class and professional and achieve great results with the equipment their non-defence orientated government lets that have. Waiouru is, as often mentioned, is not a very nice place but the rest of the country a few clicks north, south or east is fantastic.
The ones in the RLC tend not to be problem as a lot of the army tend to think that the RLC (with the exception of those brave and fine Ammo Techs) are a pack of idiots anyway. When they find out they are not, they are relieved. Hiding idiots in the MOD or other of the many HQs dotted around is a far bigger problem as sometimes the fruit of their stupidity only become apparent some time after they have left.
hahahaha!! Soooo funny that we hide our idiots in the RLC! granted there are a good few, but so there should be, as it is the biggest corps! but lets look at smaller regiments that have complete thick as mince soldiers that remain grunts for the rest of their days, cos morons like u are happy to work with them cos u obviously think they make u look marginally better!! get over urself houseman!!
some tips if you are thinking of joining the NZ Army.
-Dont **** with the natives, they dont suffer fools gladly and will rearange even the prettyest fases at the drop of a hat, However! they are some of the funneyest, hardest working, and most loyal bastards you will ever meet (ruthless as **** too), and for you brits out there, Maori, is pronounced, Mow-Rie.
-Waiouru is a festering shit hole, its cold wet smelly and boaring. that hassent changed in 2000 years and its not likley to in the next 2000 years. so be prepared to be misrible, (however if you are already in the infantry, you will have heaps of practice at this al ready.) if not already, accoustme yourself with drinking lots at one time, cuz theres **** all elce to do.
-we dont really have **** all desent kit so be prepared for hand me downs, and because of the lack of kit, Excersices tend to be, at the best of times, ******* BORING!! However, we do alot of them which makes us, i believe, one of the best trained armys in the world, alongside the british and austrailans, with the exeption of not being as profissient with the advanced kit you chaps have because obviously, we dont have it.
but NZ is a primo place to live and the people are awsome. i was born and raised here and am coming over to join the British Army next year and cant wait. i was in the NZ Army for a year when i was 17-18 as a gunner, on the L118 (for anyone interested, an idea of how behind we are on the tech side of things, we are still using dial sights and collimators as aiming devises for our guns.......)
sorry bowt the spelling, i am partially retarded after running into walls at All Arms Recruit Cource, this being a form of punishment for the recruit/recreational activitys for the DS (charming chaps once you get to know them......) thanks all.
Seriously your making the NZ army sound bad, i dont know you from a bar of soap but after one year in the NZ Army i wouldnt consider you to be an expert on it. As far as Waiouru is concerned if your not into Hunting, Fishing, Motor X, 4wd-ing, Skiing/Snowboarding, mountain climbing/walking then yeah i guess it wouldnt be up your alley. But a lot of the people over here are looking at a change of lifestyle and a better place to raise there kids, Waiouru might (and does as i have ex brit mates there) appeal to them.
Kit wise, we have some pretty good stuff, yeah the guns are old and not as upto date as some armys but in general our personel kit is very good.
I dont mind answering guys questions about the NZ army but i dont want to have "clarify" stupid comments made about it.
Be mindful of what you say in this forum mate because there are all sorts of people (basic training instructors) lurking in here.
Fair call mate, what i did say about NZ was slightly pessemistic, i agree. but for the record, i think NZ is a wicked place, the Army is very good one, and the people are friendly as they come, sorry for any offence caused, but seriously, you cant argue that waiouru is a pretty horroble place to be on Ex in when the weather is bad!! Fair play tho mate, all in all it was just a bit of hurmour.
The NZ army is a highly trained, motivated, disciplined fighting/peacekeeping/development force, with an amazing multi culture format which gives it an amazing capability to identify with the locals in any country. Respected world wide for its professionalism. Kiwi soldiers are always welcomed in whatever part of the world they operate in, by other militaries, and the locals who know they can rely on us and trust us. how ever, it is my opinion that we have not been given the chance to prove ourselves in a combat role, and if given the chance, im sure the combination of our world class Infantry, light bn (2/1) and Armoured bn (1st) with that of our armoured core equipped with the LAV (an exellenent bit of kit) and the guns of the RNZA, would amount to a fierce fighting force to be feared by even the best of the worlds armies. This is what I should have written first up, and it is the truth!! Donât be put of by my previous post, for I was being an un-patriotic git. the NZ army is, I believe on the most highly trained forces in the world, and I am looking forward to the revival of the ANZAC, which hopefully will see a raft of active service in the worlds hotspots, and given Australiaâs successâs in the combat roles in Afghanistan, should prove, once again (as in the days of WW 1, 2) that the Anzacâs are a fearsome fighting force!