The nothing to do with transgender thread

[Daz]

Zero issues with ethnicity as far as I'm concerned; as a child gets older I'd say that finding a culturally-appropriate family does become more important though.

You're missing the point that its an "ethical issue" hence people of the wrong racial & cultural background being denied the chance to adopt children who are unwanted, but of a dissimilar racial & cultural background due to someone else's ethics

 

[Drazyl]

Zero issues with ethnicity as far as I'm concerned; as a child gets older I'd say that finding a culturally-appropriate family does become more important though.

What does "culturally appropriate" mean? Are you implying that all people with a certain skin colour have the same culture? That people from a certain country are all the same? That immigrants don't ever integrate and become culturally part of their new home?

 

[Dicky Ticker]

It is perfectly normal, just less common.

Gonna stop you there. "Normal" gets a dictionary definition of "conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected.". If it is less common, then it is not "normal".

The term "normalised deviation" is used where a behaviour does not follow the "norm", but the behaviour becomes popular to the point that it becomes the "norm". For example, crossing the road at the pedestrian crossing is seen as the norm, until the majority of people start crossing the road in a different place and the crossing is ignored. This new crossing point is the new norm, which is a deviation from the old norm.

I would suggest that all this talk about sex and gender is, without trying to use the term "deviation" in a manner that some will be offended by, the minority trying to deviate from the norm and make it the new normal to suit their agenda.

 

[endure]

I would suggest that all this talk about sex and gender is, without trying to use the term "deviation" in a manner that some will be offended by, a very small minority of the minority trying to deviate from the norm and make it the new normal to suit their agenda.

FOC etc.

 

[Mattb]

Are you implying that all people with a certain skin colour have the same culture?

No, hence my first line about ethnicity. No idea where you got that from.

I’m saying that given a straight choice between two families of very different cultural backgrounds and a 14 year old child, I’d try and pick the one closest to the child’s own culture. Clearly though that isn’t the only factor that needs considering.

A baby on the other hand essentially has no culture, so not something that really matters.

 

[anglo]

No, hence my first line about ethnicity. No idea where you got that from.

I’m saying that given a straight choice between two families of very different cultural backgrounds and a 14 year old child, I’d try and pick the one closest to the child’s own culture. Clearly though that isn’t the only factor that needs considering.

A baby on the other hand essentially has no culture, so not something that really matters.

Would you give a black baby to a white couple,
or
Would you give a white baby to a black couple

A baby on the other hand essentially has no culture, so not something that really matters.

Till they grew up

 

[Mattb]

Would you give a black baby to a white couple,
or
Would you give a white baby to a black couple

Why do you keep bringing that one up? I’ve said several times that ethnicity shouldn’t make any difference.

Till they grew up

With the culture of their adopted parents. Not sure where the issue is there.

 

[ExREME.TECH]

Transracial adoptions for one- . The Children Act 1989 and Adoption and Children Act 2002 state that in England and Wales an adoption agency must give due consideration to a child's religious persuasion, racial origin and cultural and linguistic background; this requirement was repealed for England in the Children and Families Act 2014

So, ethical speaking, what is the best option for the child? that is an ongoing argument

As long as you are not a smoker

 

[Tappet]

Gonna stop you there. "Normal" gets a dictionary definition of "conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected.". If it is less common, then it is not "normal".

Is being in the Army then not normal?

Its not that common nowadays.

 

[lokiuk]

Would you give a black baby to a white couple,
or
Would you give a white baby to a black couple

A baby on the other hand essentially has no culture, so not something that really matters.

Till they grew up

But what if the baby is ginger?

 

[MOzanne]

But what if the baby is ginger?

 

[Tappet]

But what if the baby is ginger?

When's bin day?

 

[Dicky Ticker]

Would you give a black baby to a white couple,
or
Would you give a white baby to a black couple

A baby on the other hand essentially has no culture, so not something that really matters.

Till they grew up

Dunno, are the black baby and white couple both from say Sweden? Or are the white baby and black couple from Peru? It doersn't matter the colour, but a common cultural background would benefit the child in later years that one where the child was raised in a completely different culture, for example taking a child from a well to do socioeconomic background and giving them to a family from the Indian sub-continent would make said child grow up very pissed off!

 

[Dicky Ticker]

Is being in the Army then not normal?

Its not that common nowadays.

When compared to the majority of the population, no. But then you coud say the same about any occupation. Being employed is the norm, unless you live in certain parts of the country where unemployment appears to be winning.

 

[Tappet]

When compared to the majority of the population, no. But then you coud say the same about any occupation. Being employed is the norm, unless you live in certain parts of the country where unemployment appears to be winning.

And being in a relationship is the norm as well. (Edit: For adults)

 

[Ryder02]

There is often a confusion between norms, and normal.

The latter was demonstrated to me by a biology lecturer (very pointedly after a comment by me) - he drew out a bell curve to demonstrate the statistical occurrence of shoe sizes in men. On the bell curve you can plot various statistical points, but at what point do you say a particular shoe size is ‘not normal’?

You can use the pornography exemplar - ‘I don’t know how to define pornography, but I know it when I see it’. But this can be very subjective too - my definition is very wide (anything where anyone gets sexual pleasure from it, and could be used for self-pleasuring) but very subjective too. It could range from a glimpse of an ankle to a full on bondage scene, complete with a clown drenched in custard who is flaggelating a Mexican donkey with a cat-o-nine tails made out of celery. We might think neither are normal (and I would agree with you) but a statistical biologist would just plot them on a curve.

We are seeing now is subjective definitions of what is normal or not - I don’t think Ru Pauls drag race (as someone else raised it) as being abnormal. Crap and rather weird, but not abnormal. FFS I was raised with Dame Edna Everidge so that’s a big ’meh‘ from me.

In other matters I defer to the science - in others yet I keep my gob shut and listen, and learn. Sharing an office with a guy who is in the most loving and committed marriage I have ever seen in my life, with another guy, has taught me that my biases need to be carefully examined from time to time.

 

[Mattb]

a full on bondage scene, complete with a clown drenched in custard who is flaggelating a Mexican donkey with a cat-o-nine tails made out of celery. We might think neither are normal (and I would agree with you) but a statistical biologist would just plot them on a curve.

Agreed, celery is far from normal, and with good reason.

Nowhere near strong enough, rhubarb is the way to go.

 

[Gun_Brickie]

Ive been watching the umbrella academy, I hope she doesnt **** up season three with her shenanigans.

It's not looking very promising for you.

She looks like a 4th-rate Justin Bieber impersonator.

 

[Ortholith]

It's not looking very promising for you.
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She looks like a 4th-rate Justin Bieber impersonator.

You would think given how happy they are now they could at least smile. That's the look I have when I've woken up hungover and realise I've bought a load of shit I don't want or need.

 

[Gun_Brickie]

You would think given how happy they are now they could at least smile. That's the look I have when I've woken up hungover and realise I've bought a load of shit I don't want or need.

And eyes like two pissholes in the snow.