The next Civil War

#1
I often wonder if the UK will descend into another civil war. It has been over 360 years since the last one. Royalist v's Parliamentarians, Religion, Levelers, Regicide, Dictatorship, law reforms.

I think the next one will be the middle class getting hacked off with the chav scum, refusing to pay tax, mix in some religious unease and a break down in law, some race riots and before you know it it will be time to clean house and start a fresh.

What would kick off a civil war?
 

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Fulham and Millwall in the FA Cup final?
 
#4
LordVonHarley said:
I often wonder if the UK will descend into another civil war. It has been over 360 years since the last one. Royalist v's Parliamentarians, Religion, Levelers, Regicide, Dictatorship, law reforms.

I think the next one will be the middle class getting hacked off with the chav scum, refusing to pay tax, mix in some religious unease and a break down in law, some race riots and before you know it it will be time to clean house and start a fresh.

What would kick off a civil war?
My bold: in certain areas of the UK i suspect we will see more cultural/race riots develop rather than the middle class getting hacked off with chav's

What with regular meetings/clashed between the EDL V UAF it's only a matter of time before other such groups will raise their heads,

So i would change it from civil to cultural in reality.
 
#5
llech said:
Wales v England.......I'd go all Colonel Kurtz!!! :D
I'd go all Strangelove ... the English have already gone strange love.

Actually, I think I'd prefer to let the Scots over the border and sell tickets. OTOH, I don't think there'd be too much that was 'civil' in such a war ...
 
#7
Has England ever had serious socialist unrest under a Labour government.
IRRC it all happens with a conservative Government.
 
#8
As this is the Intelligence Cell I will give you a straight response. Bare in mind that this is my personal opinion after much thought. The next major civil disturbance within UK will probably not start here. I consider that trouble will eventually arise in a European country, Sweden, Denmark or Holland, most probably with riots involving Muslim immigrants. From here it will spread like wildfire to all European countries that have a significant proportion of Muslims. The hard left Marxists will join with the Muslims and ipso-facto a pseudo civil war.
But this is not the question to ask. The real question is what will be the result? Will the government order the police, armed forces etc. to put down any retaliation by the non-Muslim majority in which case you will have an all-out civil war or would Islam be banned in Europe?
I fully expect a few will call this outrageous but it has happened previously and those who don't learn from history are destined to make the same mistakes.
 
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Michigan75 said:
As this is the Intelligence Cell I will give you a straight response. Bare in mind that this is my personal opinion after much thought. The next major civil disturbance within UK will probably not start here. I consider that trouble will eventually arise in a European country, Sweden, Denmark or Holland, most probably with riots involving Muslim immigrants. From here it will spread like wildfire to all European countries that have a significant proportion of Muslims. The hard left Marxists will join with the Muslims and ipso-facto a pseudo civil war.
But this is not the question to ask. The real question is what will be the result? Will the government order the police, armed forces etc. to put down any retaliation by the non-Muslim majority in which case you will have an all-out civil war or would Islam be banned in Europe?
I fully expect a few will call this outrageous but it has happened previously and those who don't learn from history are destined to make the same mistakes.
Please don`t draw any Danish type cartoons or we are all doomed.
 

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Excognito said:
the English have already gone strange love.
We've had our moments Taff, but generally we leave the sheep to crop grass and get fat unmolested.

The next one will kick off because we all get on with our lives, ignoring the kids packing kitchen knives and getting ripped on silly-named drugs like Meow Meow (for fucks sakes) and filming happy-slapping on the mobbies their parents paid for because their parents just want to neck a glass of red and watch shite on the TV.

The next one will kick off because we cant be arsed to see it coming. It'll come from the park, not the Mosque.
 
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Michigan75 said:
As this is the Intelligence Cell I will give you a straight response. Bare in mind that this is my personal opinion after much thought. The next major civil disturbance within UK will probably not start here. I consider that trouble will eventually arise in a European country, Sweden, Denmark or Holland, most probably with riots involving Muslim immigrants. From here it will spread like wildfire to all European countries that have a significant proportion of Muslims. The hard left Marxists will join with the Muslims and ipso-facto a pseudo civil war.
But this is not the question to ask. The real question is what will be the result? Will the government order the police, armed forces etc. to put down any retaliation by the non-Muslim majority in which case you will have an all-out civil war or would Islam be banned in Europe?
I fully expect a few will call this outrageous but it has happened previously and those who don't learn from history are destined to make the same mistakes.
I think in this case M7 5 may have hit the nail on the head. The far right has kicked off again in France and seems to be attracting less vitriol than in the past and the Cloggies seem to be getting rather vocal about immigration. If it did kick off in Europe I don't think the channel will stop it reaching here. Race riots in England? a distinct possibility as we're supposed to be having a very hot summer, that usually kicks them off.
 
#12
Scenario: Labour "win" the next election. The middle classes all up sticks and retire to Europe, taking skills and money with them. What's left behind squabble over who's going to pay them this week, and it kicks off from there. You read it here first, remember...
 
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oscar1whisky said:
Scenario: Labour "win" the next election. The middle classes all up sticks and retire to Europe, taking skills and money with them. What's left behind squabble over who's going to pay them this week, and it kicks off from there. You read it here first, remember...
HRH The Queen, God Bless her, would dissolve parliament. But would labour fight for power? I doubt the police would take sides, which means PMC's or UAF on the streets.
 

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#16
A civil war is where the chavs fight back. In a cull, they don't.
 
#17
Biped said:
A civil war is where the chavs fight back. In a cull, they don't.
You'd have to drag them away from that JK daytime show first :wink:
 
#18
Perhaps there would be a major international conflagration before or instead of civil war in Europe. Though the pot is bubbling on the streets. What happens with the economy is crucial, of course.
 
#19
sorry, i thought this was a recruitment drive for the next one
let me know when you've all picked teams i'll be there... :twisted:
 
#20
TheIronDuke said:
Excognito said:
the English have already gone strange love.
The next one will kick off because we all get on with our lives, ignoring the kids packing kitchen knives and getting ripped on silly-named drugs like Meow Meow (for fucks sakes) and filming happy-slapping on the mobbies their parents paid for because their parents just want to neck a glass of red and watch shite on the TV.

The next one will kick off because we cant be arsed to see it coming. It'll come from the park, not the Mosque.
Home-grown Islamic radicalism springs as much from the milieu in which (generally) Pakistani youths grow up as from the militant preachers they hear (normally) outside the mosque or on its fringes.

To combat the spread of the idea of Islamic terrorism within the Muslim community it's necessary to reduce unemployment and petty criminality, as wel as having a good education policy. Sadly this government is largely ineffective in doing so.

To combat the practice of Islamic terrorism it is of course necessary to retain well funded security services.
 
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