The New World Order....

[Kingfisher]

Greetings fellow citizens.
Given that most economists agree that there will most likely be a one world goverment and economy within the next 15 years, I wonder what it will be like, if it does indeed come to pass?

I've been reading a lot lately about David Rockefeller, the main man behind the NWO. He states that one of the most important goals of the NWO is a form of population control, which would reduce and stablise the worlds population. (Badly needed, I think we will all agree. Too many chavs, third world people, and uneducated people breeding when they obviously can't afford to raise and educate their children.)
However........it is alleged that the NWO will result in an elite controlling the worlds economy, and a totalitarian socialist society. In order to do this, society will have to be divided into the working classes and the upper classes. The middle classes will be removed altogether. Apparently, the working model for the NWO is China. Rockefeller even admitted: ""One is impressed immediately by the sense of national harmony.... Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution it has obviously succeeded... in fostering high morale and community purpose. General social and economic progress is no less impressive....The enormous social advances of China have benefited greatly form the singleness of ideology and purpose.... The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in history." New York Times, 8-10-1973.

What do you think folks? Would it be a good thing to let smarter people decide for us, or would we all end up living in some orwellian nightmare? Given that the most cerebral discussions these days seem to be Jade cnuting Goody, do we deserve to be ruled for being idiots?

 

[Bradstyley]

Tinfoil hats at the ready! Who are these 'most economists' then?

 

[Markintime]

Not bad a 35 year old quote which, if it had been accurate, would have come true 20 years ago.

Bit of a non starter really.

 

[Screw_The_Nut]

I think the opposite is more likely, anarchy and small comunities ruling themselves, casting off centralisation alltogether. Maybe I should stop reading post appocalyptic sci-fi novels....

 

[OOMPALOOMPA]

There is god clips on youtube called ZEITGEIST! In them it goes on about religion, 911 and the american federal reserve in which the Rockerfeller family is a big part of, very eye opening. As for the new world order, what better way to do this than to break down the world financial systems, then eventually you end up with one big bank controlling everybody. I believe our world is totally controlled by corporations and bankers. The governments in this world and in every country are just puppets on a string doing what they are told by the "men behind the curtain".

 

[Bradstyley]

I think screw the nut's scenario is the more likely-we're slipping into a dark age of breakdown and dissolution rather then a totalitarian superstate...

 

[Kingfisher]

No I'm not going for the black helicopters and stormtroopers seizing you from your bed crap, but what I'm saying is absolute power corrupts absolutely. which is something I'm always cautious about. Do you think it would be worth it in the long run? There seems to be a few politicians harping on about it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_world_order

What do you think are the pro's and con's of the NWO? I suppose what I'm trying to say is, will it eventually result in a genuinely better world for everyone, or will it be corruption as usual?

p.s. I'm not one of the tin foil hat brigade, I consider myself a rational human being open to logical debate and discussion...

 

[trecass]

Read the book "Last Light" by Alex Scarrow, its a thriller but it puts a good twist on the NWO scenario

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/

Or you could Google Peak Oil

 

[CaptainWillard]

Wouldn't work. Surely every successful society needs a middle class of some description to act as a buffer to stop those on top from reaming the workers too much and conversely to keep the proles from getting too uppity?
Lose that buffer and, whilst those on top will initially be coining it in, they'd eventually push things too far and end up in a shallow grave with a third eye socket courtesy of a peoples revolutionary tribunal...


CW

 

[Kingfisher]

Yeah I've seen zeitgeist, an interesting piece. One thing that does trouble me is what Nicholas Rockefeller said to Aaron Russo, about the ultimate goal being to insert RFID chips in people and control them that way....theoretically possible, and quite brilliant, as long as you're the one doing the chipping. That would shut up dissenters for once and for all. Then again, old Aaron could've been in on a joke with Nicholas. See the full interview here anyway-
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5420753830426590918

I would absolutely subscribe to the belief that banking could be used as a tool of control, or a weapon, should one feel the desire to do so. I certainly wouldn't call this a conspiracy theory. I think I'm cynical enough to understand how the mind of an utter ruthless bastard thinks.
As for the peak oil theory, wouldn't this problem be sorted with a massive reduction in population however?

At the moment I'm reading one of those underground "banned" books called "Behold the pale horse" by William Cooper. So far it's.....faaaaaaaar out, man! Never let it be said that I didn't cover all the opinions!

Aha captain, spot on! But isn't this precisely what happened it China? And when the workers got a bit lippy, there was a bit of a skirmish in Tiananmen square....
Although that fella carrying his shopping in front of a tank must have got a few free pints.

 

[Taz_786]

Yeah I've seen zeitgeist, an interesting piece. One thing that does trouble me is what Nicholas Rockefeller said to Aaron Russo, about the ultimate goal being to insert RFID chips in people and control them that way....theoretically possible, and quite brilliant, as long as you're the one doing the chipping. That would shut up dissenters for once and for all. Then again, old Aaron could've been in on a joke with Nicholas. See the full interview here anyway-
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5420753830426590918

I would absolutely subscribe to the belief that banking could be used as a tool of control, or a weapon, should one feel the desire to do so. I certainly wouldn't call this a conspiracy theory. I think I'm cynical enough to understand how the mind of an utter ruthless fatherless thinks.
As for the peak oil theory, wouldn't this problem be sorted with a massive reduction in population however?

At the moment I'm reading one of those underground "banned" books called "Behold the pale horse" by William Cooper. So far it's.....faaaaaaaar out, man! Never let it be said that I didn't cover all the opinions!

Aha captain, spot on! But isn't this precisely what happened it China? And when the workers got a bit lippy, there was a bit of a skirmish in Tiananmen square....
Although that fella carrying his shopping in front of a tank must have got a few free pints.

Not if you keep your money under the mattress, that's them foiled!

 

[Biped]

So, Rockefeller reckons that the Chinese poor are pretty happy with their lot, and the uber-rich Chinese are also pretty happy . . . . .

and a NWO is going to be a good thing is it?

The larger the mass of people being controlled, the more totalitarian the regime that does the control. The more people being 'managed' the more corrupt the 'managers'.

This so-called New World Order is the VERY worst thing that can be imposed on the world's people - now or at any time in the future.

What we have right now, despite the fact that it's not perfect is variety and choice. There is NO perfect system, either for the rulers or the ruled, so why recreate it on a global level?

What happens if we don't like the system of global rulers? The system of global government? Can we change it? Can we fcuk!

It's bad enough now, but there's always the option of packing our bags and emigrating. That option will be removed, unless you've got a ticket to the moon.

Who will 'elect' these uber-rich authoritarians? 5 billion learned souls? Nah, didn't think so.

One only has to look at large groups of people in big nations to see the sort of indemic inequality and corruption that can come about - the US where they haven't even started rebuilding an entire city that was destroyed by flooding, and that only happening because nobody wanted to pay for the levy. Is this a well-governed nation? Some would say not, and this is supposed to be the example of democracy we all follow.

Let's look at Russia . . . . ok, let's not. What about China . . . . . ask the peasants what they ACTUALLY think, or perhaps they don't, because nobody tells them what's not on the propaganda sheet.

Like I say, it's a nightmare in the offing, and we will all suffer for it, now and forever more . . . . unless you are one of the cotery of 'world leaders'.

Edited to add: BTW, who is it that's proposing this idea . . . . . oh yes, the uber-uber stinming rich and cossetted. Who's backing the plan . . . . aahh, yes, other filthy stinking rich powerful people who would see their poer further entrenched.

Anybody from the poorhouse think this ia a good idea? Anyone .. . . . hmmmm, what about the soon-to-be-disbanded middle classes . . . . . anyone [silence]. Anyone who actually works for a living . . . . . . nope.

What is being proposed by the rich and powerful in the world is something we should fight tooth and nail to prevent. Think of it like all the top world bankers coming together and saying "Hey, here's a great idea for the economy - let's get everyone to owe us money".

Hey, here's a great idea for humanity - let's get us to be everyone's boss. That'll make the world so much better. We, the people who bring you boom and bust, the people who make billions out of war, the people who bring down governments, and develop chemical weapons . . . we the bankers, the oil men, the presidents, the Mandelsons, the dictators, the media magnates - with us controlling the world, it'll all be sooooo much better.

 

[Rocketeer]

The world will be divided into two opposing forces.. Those that drink Coke and those that drink Pepsi....It's Rollerball deja vu all over again...

or not...

 

[PandaLOVE]

Given that most economists agree that there will most likely be a one world goverment and economy within the next 15 years, I wonder what it will be like, if it does indeed come to pass?

Have the Asian and Muslim nations signed up to this? Is world peace booked for 2024? We havn't even adopted the euro.

 

[muhandis89]

Another meeting,a communique-and nothing happens.Just look at what happened in Brussels over the weekend.Soundbite central,if I am correct.Talking about talking seems to be all the politicians can do at present.NuLiabor are masters of the technique.

 

[smartascarrots]

Pssst. Mao died in 1976. Let's keep that just between us and the rest of the human race, shall we?

Nobody in China seriously thinks his 'social experiment' was any good anymore - even the CCP refer to '70% right and 30% wrong' and there are popular references to 'Young Mao' and 'Old Mao' almost as if they were two different people. Rockerfeller was a bit of a tool if he thought that the 'sense of national harmony' was down to Mao or his actions - it's far more fundamental to the national character to seek a social consensus and it's remarkable how it survived the GLF and Cultural Revolution. As for 1989 - that was much more about disgust with rampant corruption than any ideological attachment.

I agree with the earlier poster, pretty much every society in history has had more than just the two tiers; rulers and ruled. Although I also agree that we deserve what we get for allowing our democracy to be usurped. Laziness is not always just its own punishment, sometimes you get absolutism as well.

 

[heard_it_all_before]

The UK is about 12-15 years passed the point of no return when it comes to discipline and order. People rant on about 'bring back the cane' and 'lets hang murderer's', which is all commendable, but this will probably only happen as the country descends into lawlessness.

Apart from a small, and by that I mean very small, segment of society, every cnut is just permanently on the look-out for someone else to blame for their own personal flaws and weaknesses. Personal pride and unity only exits in certain quarters, with the remainder slowly evolving into a feral and irretrievable mongged and dumbed down society that has absolutely no ability to think for themselves.

The massed ranks of the welfare state.

The only EU member States that have politicians with the ability to shout-from-the-roof-tops about the dangers of the quickly forming single EU Police State, are those of the former Soviet Satellite States that have only recently gained their freedoms from State suppression and control. Funnily enough the so called 'Elders of Europe' do all that they can to put these leaders back in their subsidised box and remind them of just who pays their bills.

 

[Command_doh]

There is god clips on youtube called ZEITGEIST! In them it goes on about religion, 911 and the american federal reserve in which the Rockerfeller family is a big part of, very eye opening. As for the new world order, what better way to do this than to break down the world financial systems, then eventually you end up with one big bank controlling everybody. I believe our world is totally controlled by corporations and bankers. The governments in this world and in every country are just puppets on a string doing what they are told by the "men behind the curtain".

Its all a load of propagandist horse5h1t.

Those who are easily led by Zeitgeist and that sort of tosh - I suggest that you barricade your doors now, because the little 'greys' from the mothership want to finish their **** probings...

Have their been any more 'revelations' this week from adding up viral email equations and folding bank notes that 'predict' things like the twin towers falling down?

 

[Screw_The_Nut]

Can we not just start an underground club where violence is practiced, then form a terrorist organisation whose ultimate goal is to destroy all the financial institutions, get insomnia and end up hunting deer in times square? Sounds far more appealing...

 

[smartascarrots]

Can we not just start an underground club where violence is practiced, then form a terrorist organisation whose ultimate goal is to destroy all the financial institutions, get insomnia and end up hunting deer in times square? Sounds far more appealing...

The First Rule says you're not supposed to talk about that!...