I had a test drive in a Renegade. It truly is a horrible thing; cramped, uncomfortable and tacky. I’ve yet to see one on the road. Can’t see why anyone would buy one when a Ranger Raptor is the same price here.It's not (unless you edit history to conflate the Willys Jeep with the PoS Wrangler). Neither has Jeep been 'setting the standard' for a very long time - unless it's the standard for 'American-not-quite-but-almost-capable-of-being-driven-in-not-a-straight-line-off-tarmac'
I try . . . and, you @bobthebuilder are paid . . . to view these things objectively.I had a test drive in a Renegade. It truly is a horrible thing; cramped, uncomfortable and tacky. I’ve yet to see one on the road. Can’t see why anyone would buy one when a Ranger Raptor is the same price here.
At least Harley’s aren’t FIATs in dragI try . . . and, you @bobthebuilder are paid . . . to view these things objectively.
But it is suggested that the "mystique" surrounding JEEP, and in particular the "iconic" Wrangler, is similar to the "cult" surrounding Haley-Davidson motorcycles.
Objectively, there are better vehicles, and better motorbikes, than both/either of them.
But, the "afficionados" of both "brands" (I hate the use of that word, with regard to the automotive industry !!), are seduced by, buy-into, the "life style" .
For completeness, also posted on the INEOS thread
AS MITSUBISHI HAVE JUST ANNOUNCED THEY WILL WITHDRAW FROM THE UK/EU/EUROPEAN MARKET, WHY IS WHATCAR? BOTHERING?! . . . TO HELP MITSUBISHI SELL THE REMAINING STOCK MAYBE?
Published by: WHATCAR? magazine, on 05 September 2020.
Mitsubishi L200 long-term test review.
The L200 has a reputation for being a great working vehicle, but can it also be a good alternative to a large SUV for those seeking practicality and off-road prowess?
We're living with one to find out:
+ The car Mitsubishi L200 Barbarian X Double Cab Run by Max Edleston, junior photographer.
+ Why it’s here To see if a pick-up truck can be as comfortable and practical for daily life as a large SUV.
+ Needs to Offer all the space that a What Car? photographer might need, be great for long-distance trips and off-road driving, and function as a mobile office.
List price £32,525
Price as tested £41,317
Test economy 32.4mpg
Official economy 36.2mpg
Options: Adventurer III commercial hardtop (£1446)
Electric Blue metallic paint (£455)
tailgate locking kit (£310) bed liner (£210)
bed mat (£134)
3 September 2020 – First impressions
When driving on the roads of Cheshire, near my family home, the chances are you’ll see one of three types of car: an SUV with enough chrome to blind an oncoming driver, a high-end sports car blasting its way round a corner, or a mile-munching saloon with a German badge on its bonnet.
A less common sight is a pick-up truck. But among Cheshire’s large farming community, the Mitsubishi L200 is one of the most sought-after models.
It’s a car that has always been present on the fringes of my life, too, because I’ve long had a keen interest in pick-up trucks and my uncle (a farmer) had a bright blue L200 when I was growing up. It amazed me back then to think how large it was inside, and how easily it could fit myself, my brother, my cousin and all of the supplies needed to run a busy farm without batting an eyelid.
Now, as you may have heard before from What Car? photographers, ours is a job where no two days are the same. One morning we could be in a dusty quarry, and the next standing up to our knees in water, all to get the pictures you see in the magazine and on the website. The point is, I need a car that can handle any terrain and that's large enough to swallow all of my gear. What’s sitting on my driveway now, then, is a new L200.
More specifically, it’s an L200 in Barbarian X trim and with an automatic gearbox. And under the bonnet is a 148bhp 2.3-litre diesel engine, which should have more than enough grunt to haul this pick-up around, even when it’s fully laden with my gear. While Barbarian X trim comes with plenty of goodies, not least a heated steering wheel and a 360deg parking camera, I have nonetheless added a few options.
The most obvious one is the £1446 hard-top cover for the load bay, which means I can keep my camera kit secure and away from prying eyes when it’s not being used. It’s early days, but the reversing camera has already proved itself to be far more than just a luxury, because parking the L200 at my local supermarket can be a challenge to say the least. Unlike the best large SUVs, pick-up trucks don’t do anything to hide their size.
The leather-trimmed seats have shown themselves to be comfortable even on long journeys, too, so I can arrive at shoot locations feeling fresh and ready to work, rather than needing 20 minutes to sort out my back and legs before getting started. Another boon is the L200’s infotainment system, which, like many modern setups, comes with Apple CarPlay smartphone mirroring.
It grants access to handy apps like Waze, allowing me to get from A to B with the minimum of fuss thanks to real-time traffic updates. True, the system has frozen up on me a couple of times recently – seemingly always when I’m in a busy town and relying on the maps to direct me. However, this might be down to the cable I'm using, so I’ll change that before blaming the truck.
During my time with the L200, I want to push it both on and off road to see how it handles different conditions and explore the different drive modes it offers. By that, I mean the various off-roading aids, including low-ratio gears and locking differentials, all designed to get me where I need to be. No matter what, I expect to get it muddy. Above all, though, I want to know whether the L200 can be just as comfortable and refined as a large SUV, while also offering that extra dose of practicality that comes with a pick-up truck, and all without breaking the bank in the process.
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The L200 has a reputation for being a great working vehicle, but can it also be a good alternative to a large SUV for those seeking practicality and off-road prowess? We're living with one to find outwww.whatcar.com
You’ve obviously never driven an LDV!We looked at 4 different pickup twin cabs for Cambodia a few years ago. The L200, the Ford, the Nissan and the Toyota Hilux.
We went with the Hilux because it had better resale value there.
The L200 sounded like it was powered by a square wave generator running on chip shop fat. Dreadful.
The only thing worse was the Sanyyong.