The new Land Rover Defender is go!

All of the cars that have made JLR what it is today were developed under Tata ownership, which freed both brands to design cars from scratch.
Ford introduced something called GPDS - Global Product Development System.. where they messed up is at trying to put too many common parts across the range.
 
One of the owners got all snotty and defensive, " blurble, blurble, whats wrong with white"? I responded with something along the lines of, "so many standard clours available and an untold number of custom colours to choose from and it ends up white".
White is the prefect colour, for a van
 
Try it; you won't regret it.
Once I settle into a new gaff, may do. It is seriously tempting.

I lost interest in cars being around the exotics and everything else my whole life...but this is one down to basics one which is really interesting.
 
A Japanese built Defender

at least this one won’t rust and fall apart by the end of the week


 
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Published by: Luke Wilkinson, AUATOEXPRESS magazine, on 17 December 2019.

New 2021 Ineos Grenadier enters final phase of development.

Austrian automotive engineering firm Magna Steyr preparing the first pre-production Ineos Grenadier development mules for testing

Ineos Automotive’s spiritual successor to the previous-generation Land Rover Defender is entering the final phase of its development programme. The first pre-production Grenadier mules are being prepped for testing by Ineos’s engineering partner, Magna Steyr, ahead of the SUV’s intended launch date in 2021 . . .

. . . . The Austrian automotive engineering company, Magna, has been responsible for the Ineos Grenadier’s chassis and suspension development since the project’s inception in 2017. Its subsidiary, Magna Steyr, is currently testing the first complete SUVs before Ineos pushes the Grenadier into full-scale production at its recently acquired Bridgend facility . . . .

Dirk Heilmann, Ineos Automotive’s CEO, pictured above alongside the Steyr-Daimler-Puch Pinzgauer 4x4, which has been continually developed by Magna Steyr since 1969, said: “The transition from concept to series development is a major landmark in the evolution of the Grenadier.

“We are pleased to have Magna, with their long heritage and experience in 4x4 development, with us for the next stage of the journey. With our production plans recently confirmed, we now move into all-important series development and start to set our sights on the start of production.”

Ineos Automotive has already broken ground on its new production facility in Bridgend, Wales. From its launch in 2021, the site will create 200 jobs – a number which will increase to 500 once the site is at maximum capacity. At its prospected 2024 peak, the new Bridgend plant will support an annual production volume of 25,000 vehicles.

The new Ineos facility will fill a vital employment hole in Bridgend, offsetting some of the 1,700 jobs lost by the scheduled closure of Ford’s engine manufacturing plant in September 2020. Ineos says it will pull from Ford’s newly redundant workforce, and offer vehicle assembly training as part of its new partnership with the Welsh government.

Ineos’s new Bridgend plant will be supported by a chassis and body manufacturing facility in Estarreja, Portugal. Ineos plans to build and paint the Grenadier’s ladder frames and body shells on the continent, then ship them back to the UK. The 4x4’s engine and drivetrain components will also be shipped from Germany and Austria, before their assembly in Wales. Over £600 million has been invested into the project, Ineos confirmed.
Ineos Grenadier: design and platform.

The Ineos Grenadier will mirror the original Defender’s platform closely. Dirk Heilmann, CEO of Ineos Automotive confirmed that it will be a body-on-frame construction with a steel ladder chassis and an aluminium body. He also confirmed that the finished product would be “fairly light,” with a towing capacity of 3.5 tonnes and a one-tonne payload . . . .

. . . . Heilmann also said that the Grenadier’s shell will be all-new, hinting at a retro design, with a boxy shape and surfaces “flat enough to rest a mug on.” Like the old Defender, it will come in a range of body styles, including a traditional “station wagon” and a pick-up variant. Little else has been revealed about its styling, with only a vague teaser image to go off . . . .

Ineos plans to make the Grenadier utilitarian and functional, with a fairly stripped-back cabin which forgoes such luxuries as carpet and sound deadening. Leather will be used on the seats purely for its durability and drain plugs will be included, allowing the driver to easily hose out the interior.

The British firm’s new off-roader will adopt a similarly spartan approach to infotainment. Mark Tennant, Commercial Director of Ineos Automotive, indicated that, in place of an integrated infotainment system, the finished product could feature a mount for drivers to use their own devices.

Ineos is taking a “relaxed” approach to vehicle modification, with Tennant stressing that buyers are encouraged to modify their Grenadiers with aftermarket accessories. Ineos says it will provide pre-fitted mounting points in the Grenadier’s chassis and body for additions such as light-bars and roof racks.
Ineos Grenadier: engines and drivetrain.

Ineos recently confirmed that it had signed a partnership with BMW, who will provide its 3.0-litre straight-six TwinPower turbo petrol and diesel engines. Both units will feed their power to a permanent all-wheel-drive system via an eight-speed automatic transmission. The Grenadier will not be offered with a manual gearbox.

Dirk Heilmann stressed that the Grenadier will not be a parts bin special. He said that the Grenadier programme has been accounted for in BMW’s research and development, and that Ineos will receive the German brand’s latest powertrains rather than its previous-generation engines, although their outputs will likely be lower in the Grenadier than the equivalent BMW product, to maintain the engines’ reliability.

Like the old Defender, the Grenadier’s chassis will feature a pair of beam axles, three locking differentials and a low-range transfer case. The 4x4 has been designed predominantly for off-road use, with minimal compromises for use on tarmac roads. Heilmann also said that the Grenadier will offer “class-leading cross-axleing capability.”

Ineos Grenadier: market and pricing.

Tennant confirmed the production version “will not be a Chelsea tractor.” The company is targeting a working audience, hoping to capitalise on the booming four-wheel-drive double-cab pick-up market, offering the Grenadier as an alternative to the Volkswagen Amarok, Ford Ranger and Mercedes X Class.

Ineos is also unfazed by the launch of the new Land Rover Defender. The brand’s Commercial Director, Mark Tennant, said: “It won’t make us alter our approach. The new Defender is a great looking vehicle, and we wish them every success, but we don’t see it being quite in the same space as the old Defender.”

Ineos’s Chairman Jim Ratcliffe stated: “the Land Rover Defender was the world’s most famous car, it conquered the planet. Many people have lamented its demise as it still fulfils a great function, but now there’s a gaping hole for a world class 4x4.

“It might sound arrogant to think we can fill that gap, but we have the confidence. We want to build something that looks cool and retains all the off-road ability of the Defender, plus it has to be reliable. This car will provide a step-change in reliability. If we can deliver that, I have no doubt it will be a success when it arrives in 2020-2021.”

Prices are yet to be officially announced, but Ineos has confirmed that it will “not be competing at the bottom end of the market.” Expect a starting price of around £30,000, climbing to around £45,000 for range-topping models.

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Published by: Rachel Burgess, AUATOCAR magazine, on 18 December 2019.

Jaguar Land Rover buys performance 4x4 firm Bowler.

Derbyshire-based firm which specialises in Land Rover models has been acquired by JLR.

Jaguar Land Rover’s Special Vehicle Operations arm has acquired Bowler, the off-road Land Rover tuner, securing its future following administration.

Bowler rose to fame tuning Land Rover models and specialises in off-road performance cars and competition cars for rally-raid events . . . .

. . . . JLR, which bought Bowler for an undisclosed sum, said the all-terrain specialist has expertise in “all-terrain vehicle dynamics, low-volume production techniques, and proving the durability of components under extreme conditions”, all of which is “highly sought-after”.

It added that SVO is a “fast-growing business that amplifies the key attributes of Jaguar and Land Rover vehicles to create distinctive world-class products – including SV, Vehicle Personalisation and Classic”. Bowler, as a fourth business unit, is “a natural fit”, said the firm.

In 2012, Bowler formed a brand partnership with JLR which led to the creation of the Defender Challenge by Bowler rally series in 2014 to 2016.

JLR SVO boss Michael van der Sande told Autocar that there was a two-part plan for Bowler. The first is to stabilise the business for six months to a year “giving it the organisation and investment it needs,” said van der Sande.

The business, which is based in Belper, Derbyshire, will remain at this location. The day-to day team of 26 staff will remain, but "some people will no longer be involved," said a spokesman given the change in shareholders.

In the meantime, JLR will develop plans for the business, but van der Sande disclosed no more details beyond the fact that it will become bigger.

The likelihood is that the Bowler name will be used on Land Rover models as extreme, off-road variants.

“We think it’s a cool company that shows there’s a great deal you can do with Land Rovers,” commented van der Sande.

The purchase will be seen by many as a shrewd move from Jaguar Land Rover, given its long-standing objection to Land Rover tuners taking business away. A number of tuning and styling firms exist predominantly for Land Rover models, including Overfinch, Twisted and Kahn.

The likelihood is that the Bowler name will be used on Land Rover models as extreme, off-road variants.

“We think it’s a cool company that shows there’s a great deal you can do with Land Rovers,” commented van der Sande.

The purchase will be seen by many as a shrewd move from Jaguar Land Rover, given its long-standing objection to Land Rover tuners taking business away. A number of tuning and styling firms exist predominantly for Land Rover models, including Overfinch, Twisted and Kahn.

In 2017, Land Rover’s design director Gerry McGovern vowed to put third-party styling houses and tuners out of business by creating better variants of the brand’s models through the company’s own Special Vehicle Operations (SVO) division. However, Bowler is somewhat of a niche firm given its all-terrain and rally expertise, an area on which JLR will be keen to capitalise.

In an official statement announcing the acquisition today, van der Sande said: “For almost 35 years the Bowler name has stood for innovation and success, with a reputation forged by its participation in the world’s toughest off-road motorsport competitions. It’s exciting that we’re now in a position to participate in and lead the Bowler brand’s future as part of Jaguar Land Rover.

“At Special Vehicle Operations we are all eager to start working with our new colleagues at Bowler. Adding the Bowler team’s skills and experience to those of SV, Vehicle Personalisation and Classic is a key step in our strategy to create an exciting and diverse portfolio of products and businesses within Special Vehicle Operations.

“Our immediate focus is on ensuring continuity of support for Bowler employees and customers during this transition to Jaguar Land Rover.”
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Published by: Rachel Burgess, AUATOCAR magazine, on 18 December 2019.

Jaguar Land Rover buys performance 4x4 firm Bowler.

Derbyshire-based firm which specialises in Land Rover models has been acquired by JLR.

Jaguar Land Rover’s Special Vehicle Operations arm has acquired Bowler, the off-road Land Rover tuner, securing its future following administration.

Bowler rose to fame tuning Land Rover models and specialises in off-road performance cars and competition cars for rally-raid events . . . .



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Very likely, they might turn it into a trim level/ performance brand like what Volvo did with Polestar.
 
Ineos’s new Bridgend plant will be supported by a chassis and body manufacturing facility in Estarreja, Portugal. Ineos plans to build and paint the Grenadier’s ladder frames and body shells on the continent, then ship them back to the UK. The 4x4’s engine and drivetrain components will also be shipped from Germany and Austria, before their assembly in Wales.

Does he know something we don't?
 
More likely a skunk works doing ultra low volume stuff that SVR can’t do. Why would JLR need another performance brand?
I don't know their strategy, so just pontificating. Bowler does have name recognition, in some places anyways, so could there be a SVR Bowler edition vehicles? I dunno...time will tell.
 
I don't know their strategy, so just pontificating. Bowler does have name recognition, in some places anyways, so could there be a SVR Bowler edition vehicles? I dunno...time will tell.
Bowler makes less than 50 cars a year in a tiny motorsports niche. Jaguar has 7 Le Mans wins and an FE team. It wouldn’t surprise me to see them in the new LMP Hypercar category. Which brand has more power?
 
Bowler makes less than 50 cars a year in a tiny motorsports niche. Jaguar has 7 Le Mans wins and an FE team. It wouldn’t surprise me to see them in the new LMP Hypercar category. Which brand has more power?
I don't think JLR bought Bowler for Jag, more for LR and RR.
 

Fake Sheikh

Old-Salt
Had a sneak peak at the New 90 at JLR Day recently, only a pre production vehicle.
But very nice with all the gadgets & gizmos in it, definatley now want one & be great off roading.
Did ask the Land Rover man if a pickup was on offer but they said depending on market needs.

Sorry no photos as cameras/phones were left in sealed bags for some reason.
 
My Lego one is still somewhere in China thanks to AliExpress not flagging when you get a message from the seller.
:mad:
My plan to spend Xmas day building a good looking 'new' Defender with Minor Sunray has gone out of the window and now I'm faced with assorted girly Friends builds.
 
Arrived yesterday and I've already assembled the LSD, Minor Sunray didn't seem to appreciate dads excited demonstration of how simple yet wonderous a diff is.
Maybe she'll get it a bit more when there's a 90 chassis on the drive and I'm fighting for room to fit a Cummins?
 
Quick history lesson . . . . ;)

 
Arrived yesterday and I've already assembled the LSD, Minor Sunray didn't seem to appreciate dads excited demonstration of how simple yet wonderous a diff is.
Maybe she'll get it a bit more when there's a 90 chassis on the drive and I'm fighting for room to fit a Cummins?
make sure it is in the right way round against instruction 4 and the wheels both turn the same way.

Not in different directions.

as I realisedon instruction 350.
 

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