The new Cold War pt2 (China)

Saddam killed thousands of innocent people throughout his reign, he gassed the kurds, his innings was never going to last forever, especially since he seemed to learn absolutely nothing from GW1.
Which really does justify our killing yet more innocent people. Of course, it's all so simple now - if you have a good enough reason, no atrocity is unacceptable.
 
If China didn't exist, the MIC would have had to invent it. The War on Terror was such an unmitigated failure that people are happy to forget about it with indecent haste. There will still be terror attacks, but nothing on the level of 9/11. Islamic Terrorism's time in the spotlight is over.

The PRC is a whole different level of Boogeyman; the world's largest military, it's second biggest economy, run by a totalitarian regime already directly responsible for a global pandemic that has killed millions. This show will run and run. The First Cold War lasted more than 40 years, and China is stronger than the USSR ever was.

There are Interesting Times ahead. ;)
China is not the Soviet Union, who at least believed in communism. China is far more a fascist state these days and long ago abandoned genuine communism. Its simply no threat to the Business Community or capitalism and its those people who have being running everything since the time of Eisenhower, with the able backing of the security services and those 'patriots' in the deep state trying to contain democracy and not upset business.

Wall Street and most politicians in the pay of the deep state would hand Taiwan over in a heart beat and the Chinese only have to contend with the vestiges of nationalism that still exist in the west and who have being conveniently classified as 'populists' and are the real enemies of peace in our time, rather than the CCP.
 
Alleged by whom, though?
If you listen to some ethnic groups in UK you could believe it to be a cross between the Confederacy and the Crusades, neither of which is true, but eagerly accepted by those with an axe to grind.
There's quite a few countries said it, Canada, the UK, to name just two.
 
I remember when all the newspapers were reporting that Iraq could launch chemical weapons in 45 minutes. It must have been true, it was in all the papers.

That was from a US students thesis that Tony Blair used as the pretence for war
 
Well it's alleged that China is committing atrocities against certain ethnic groups within it's own borders.
It certainly is. It's also been alleged that the UK was committing them within its own borders as well as within other peoples'.

Does that make it true?
 
There's quite a few countries said it, Canada, the UK, to name just two.
Sourcing their information from where?

Put it this way: if the PRC has such tight control over its people, how does the information reach us? Are there teams of western journalists roaming Xinjiang and Tibet, interviewing anyone they see wearing stripey pyjamas? Or is the information fed to them by organisations with links to those places but also very specific agendas to push?
 
Sourcing their information from where?

Put it this way: if the PRC has such tight control over its people, how does the information reach us? Are there teams of western journalists roaming Xinjiang and Tibet, interviewing anyone they see wearing stripey pyjamas? Or is the information fed to them by organisations with links to those places but also very specific agendas to push?
There's been absolutely loads of news about it, and as I've already mentioned they weren't exactly accomodating re the WHO investigation. They couldn't interview anyone, as the re-education camps are closed shops, plus the journos don't really get that much freedom to move about, well the ones that haven't been kicked out of China that is.
 
There's been absolutely loads of news about it, and as I've already mentioned they weren't exactly accomodating re the WHO investigation. They couldn't interview anyone, as the re-education camps are closed shops, plus the journos don't really get that much freedom to move about, well the ones that haven't been kicked out of China that is.
While Long Kesh always had open days for international journalists and tv crews, who also openly questioned everyone involved in Novichok struck Salisbury, etc etc?
 
I remember when all the newspapers were reporting that Iraq could launch chemical weapons in 45 minutes. It must have been true, it was in all the papers.

I remember those reports, based on an on-camera assertion of some Major General in charge of Western Iraq. There was clearly a perception among the upper political and military circles that these systems existed and were ready to fly. Can't blame Western media for reporting it.
 
I remember those reports, based on an on-camera assertion of some Major General in charge of Western Iraq. There was clearly a perception among the upper political and military circles that these systems existed and were ready to fly. Can't blame Western media for reporting it.
That was deliberately confusing capability with intent, perhaps?
 
I can't recall any new foreign alliances uniting against the UK though to counter that and other claims.
What does that prove except that certain foreign alliances are more eager to use claims to further their interests than others?

History proves that it doesn't prove the accuracy of those claims.
 
Can't blame Western media for reporting it.
Probably not. You can blame them for not being more critical in their analysis of the claims, though.

The utility of a free press is inversely proportional to the extent of their unquestioning acceptance.
 

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