The MSM - Are they scum sucking leeches or beyond reproach?

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I wonder what the story is behind the Daily Telegraph's apparent jump to the Left, with its ongoing hate campaign against Cummings? Its still desperately stirring the pot this morning, when even the BBC has wound its neck in somewhat. Is this a new anti-Brexit and/or anti-BJ effort?
anti Brexit.
the agrument is now we must stay in EUtopia as WuFlu stops us going on cheap holidays to Spain if we leave
 
Cheers @Needy_guy_mk2. As I've already said, I'd prefer Cummings was running the Brexit planning, I think Blackford is **** for his harassment of an obviously ill person but them's aint the points.

One was following the guidelines and instructions from Parliament, one wasn't. You having a crush on one doesn't change anything.
Quite a tear-stained reply there, Last Word Guy.

Do you still maintain that fatty Ian Skyewalker only has one home? Is it like Baba Yaga's?



It runs up to Skye when he wants to ignore the lockdown, then creeps back to London when it's time to claim expenses?
 

Joker62

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anti Brexit.
the agrument is now we must stay in EUtopia as WuFlu stops us going on cheap holidays to Spain if we leave
Not really, Spain opens it's airways to international travel from July 1st.
 

daz

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Cheers @Needy_guy_mk2. As I've already said, I'd prefer Cummings was running the Brexit planning, I think Blackford is **** for his harassment of an obviously ill person but them's aint the points.

One was following the guidelines and instructions from Parliament, one wasn't. You having a crush on one doesn't change anything.
That would be DC who followed the rules, as opposed to gallivanting around Isle of Skye taking photos

Just a quick reminder as to why DC's trip to Durham was within the rules

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As confirmed in the Police statement, and before you crack up again, the Barnard Castle trip "might" have been classed as a minor breach, emphasis on the "might have been", not it was a clear breach as you've suggested in the past.

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Cold_Collation

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With any luck it'll take a few days to sink in, thereby providing us plebs some much deserved live entertainment.
On a slightly serious note, are these muppets the best that the major broadcasters can provide?
I can only hope that once this bollocks is all over, journalists schools will hold them up as prize examples of how not to do the job.
They're not; Laura K, for instance, has proven that her primary skill is in peddling gossip from Westminster Village. Faced with actually having to deliver a story of true national import and demonstrating the ability to stand back off events and provide a true strategic overview/insight, she has failed.

Equally, so have the team around her and those above her. Rather than starting from a point of "What is the story?" they've continually started from a "How can we make it look bleak for Johnson?" angle.

I know some very good writers out there in the business-to-business and more specialist* arenas. Among friends and colleagues, we've been appalled at the people who are supposedly 'the best' of our trade. They're not; they're simply the most high-profile. Have you noticed how some of the more intelligent questions over recent days have come from the regional press and members of the public?

I've stopped telling people I'm a journalist, because I can make a distinction between the fact-checking and straight reporting which goes on within what I do. In many cases in the MSM, particularly in the newspapers, 'fact-checking' involves ringing the lawyers and asking, "Does this sail too close to the wind and will we get sued, or can we get away with it?" That's not fact-checking; it's gauging how far they can bend the truth.

The point is that many of the very good writers I know could do a very much better job of what many in the mainstream do. The underlying problem is that they'd never get considered for some of the posts with the MSM because they as individuals are "too specialist".

It's a form of snobbery (inverse, because the levels of talent and ability are there) and protectionism.

The reality is that many of specialist guys have the questioning abilities and analytical skills to turn their hands to pretty much anything. It's the stock-in-trade of the jobbing writer. I've become an SME on various things simply because someone has rung me up, asked if had the time to write about something, and I've said yes because I've needed to earn a crust that month.

Any of you need to know about ballast and waste water treatment systems for ships, for instance? I'm your man. What did I know about it when I started? Sweet FA, but I had to be able to produce something credible to a professional audience in order to get paid/offered future work. I've done it with many other things besides.

In other words, you can't bluff.

If someone wants to offer me or several people I know LK's or EM's jobs, I'll/we'll happily take them on for the same salary.



*Such as defence and maritime, before everyone starts thinking of BDSM and the like.
 
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They're not; Laura K, for instance, has proven that her primary skill is in peddling gossip from Westminster Village. Faced with actually having to deliver a story of true national import and demonstrating the ability to stand back off events and provide a true strategic overview/insight, she has failed.

Equally, so have the team around her and those above her. Rather than starting from a point of "What is the story?" they've continually started from a "How can we make it look bleak for Johnson?" angle.

I know some very good writers out there in the business-to-business and more specialist* arenas. Among friends and colleagues, we've been appalled at the people who are supposedly 'the best' of our trade. They're not; they're simply the most high-profile. Have you noticed how some of the more intelligent questions over recent days have come from the regional press and members of the public?

I've stopped telling people I'm a journalist, because I can make distinction between the fact-checking and straight reporting which goes on within what I do. In many cases in the MSM, particularly in the newspapers, 'fact-checking' involves ringing the lawyers and asking, "Does this sale too close to the wind and will we get sued, or can we get away with it?" That's not fact-checking; it's gauging how far they can bend the truth.

The point is that many of the very good writers I know could do a very much better job of what many in the mainstream do. The underlying problem is that they'd never get considered for some of the posts with the MSM because they as individuals are "too specialist".

It's a form of snobbery (inverse, because the levels of talent and ability are there) and protectionism.

The reality is that many of specialist guys have the questioning abilities and analytical skills to turn their hands to pretty much anything. It's the stock-in-trade of the jobbing writer. I've become an SME on various things simply because someone has rung me up, asked if had the time to write about something, and I've said yes because I've needed to earn a crust that month.

Any of you need to know about ballast and waste water treatment systems for ships, for instance? I'm your man. What did I know about it when I started? Sweet FA, but I had to be able to produce something credible to a professional audience in order to get paid/offered future work. I've done it with many other things besides.

In other words, you can't bluff.

If someone wants to offer me or several people I know LK's or EM's jobs, I'll/we'll happily take them on for the same salary.



*Such as defence and maritime, before everyone starts thinking of BDSM and the like.
Completely agree with that, as you no doubt knew I would.
The chap from ‘New Scientist’ asked a very good question last night.
 

See we're were watching the wrong briefing.
The one the press are on about is the briefing where Kim Jung Johnson threatened to shoot the CMO and CSA.

I feel a bit silly myself coz I only saw the one at 5 yesterday and laughed at LKs face and the instant put downs from BJ and both of the experts to the foolish press questions. Where can we watch the one the Gruniada are on about?
It sounds awful!
 

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See we're were watching the wrong briefing.
The one the press are on about is the briefing where Kim Jung Johnson threatened to shoot the CMO and CSA.

I feel a bit silly myself coz I only saw the one at 5 yesterday and laughed at LKs face and the instant put downs from BJ and both of the experts to the foolish press questions. Where can we watch the one the Gruniada are on about?
It sounds awful!
You need this channel. I don't have it but a lot of the Remainers seem to watch it.
 

See we're were watching the wrong briefing.
The one the press are on about is the briefing where Kim Jung Johnson threatened to shoot the CMO and CSA.

I feel a bit silly myself coz I only saw the one at 5 yesterday and laughed at LKs face and the instant put downs from BJ and both of the experts to the foolish press questions. Where can we watch the one the Gruniada are on about?
It sounds awful!

Wow.

He's not so much twisting the events, as erasing them and inserting his own narrative. A huge number of comments agreeing with him too. And, as you say, that's simply not how it was.

If people are willing to routinely render reality and truth re-writeable to that extent, then they're heading for literal insanity. I sincerely hope that they are simply an extremely vocal minority, driven to hysteria because deep-down they know that they've lost the idealogical argument.

Otherwise, 2 + 2 = ?
 
Completely agree with that, as you no doubt knew I would.
The chap from ‘New Scientist’ asked a very good question last night.
Ditto.
There was a journalist from Cumbria on a few days ago who asked a pertinent question and was therefore replied to both at length and courteously.
It's the old sage, act decently and you'll get treated decently. Equally, act like a cnut...
 
Ditto.
There was a journalist from Cumbria on a few days ago who asked a pertinent question and was therefore replied to both at length and courteously.
It's the old sage, act decently and you'll get treated decently. Equally, act like a cnut...
IIRC he was Beeb Local.
 

Auld-Yin

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That would be DC who followed the rules, as opposed to gallivanting around Isle of Skye taking photos

Just a quick reminder as to why DC's trip to Durham was within the rules

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As confirmed in the Police statement, and before you crack up again, the Barnard Castle trip "might" have been classed as a minor breach, emphasis on the "might have been", not it was a clear breach as you've suggested in the past.

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Yes, it's a real bummer when the guy the press were trying to bring down is in the right.
I'm sure it's just sheer coincidence that neither Blackford or Kinnock were hounded because both are remainers & neither are Tories.
 
CNN are literally trying to stoke up tensions for another riot in Minneapolis. Every black talking head that they can find, including one who made a reference to the original Boston Tea party (Before making it clear that he was not condoning violence, no sirree bob).
I hope the journalists get their ******* heads kicked in, if the riots start again.
 
Quite a tear-stained reply there, Last Word Guy.

Do you still maintain that fatty Ian Skyewalker only has one home? Is it like Baba Yaga's?
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Quite, you've now gone full @AfghanAndy haven't you @Needy_guy_mk2? You're the only one who has mentioned a commute aren't you?

I reckon if Blackman had popped that Tali in the name of Brexit you'd be defending it as perfectly reasonable. Does this help petal?

MPs given £10,000 extra to help them work from home during coronavirus outbreak
 

daz

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Quite, you've now gone full @AfghanAndy haven't you @Needy_guy_mk2? You're the only one who has mentioned a commute aren't you?

I reckon if Blackman had popped that Tali in the name of Brexit you'd be defending it as perfectly reasonable. Does this help petal?

MPs given £10,000 extra to help them work from home during coronavirus outbreak
The same amount of cash that businesses can get from the local government depending on their rates (other schemes are also available) , no issue with that
 
CNN are now casting doubt on the autopsy of George Floyd and well as having a live trial for the cop accused.

They really are shit news organisation.

(Its on my TV because my wife watches the shit)
 

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