The MSM - Are they scum sucking leeches or beyond reproach?

Are they scum sucking leeches or beyond reproach?

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My! The Guardian are in hysteria overdrive!
 
he was operating outside of the spirit of the rules
He either broke the rules or he didn't, there's no such thing as "spirit of the rules"
The whole argument hinges on the ambiguity of the rules. Did he break them or not? Well?
 
And there is the problem, I think he gave a fair explanation of what happened and
why, I think the rules are as he quoted,
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 

Grownup_Rafbrat

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Not really although it was a shit show Cummings was unrepentant although clearly he was operating outside of the spirit of the rules. It looked like he was trying to get off the hook.
Have to disagree with you there. He made his explanation clearly and calmly. The journalists then took turns read their prepared questions, not taking into account anything he said, and continued to shitstir and dissemble about their role in making his home an unpleasant place to be. The prepared questions merely repeated the same old shite they have been spouting for days. No one asked whether the child is better, has to go to hospital again or anything, they didn't ask after his wife , just kept on and on with the same question in different formats.

I would have lost patience and told them to listen to what I had already said before covering old ground again, and to stop lying and stirring up unnecessary public anger and vicious behaviour when there are people dying, China is starting to raise serious worries, the Euro is about to collapse, Africa is starting to lose hundreds to covid and we will never know how many because of corruption, and so on for ever.

Wake up journalists! you don't speak for the British people, it's not your job to try, and you couldn't if it were your job because you are one-track-minded intellectual molluscs.


I haven't had my tea yet, you may realise ...
 
I'm not so sure about that, the majority of the public are mahoosively pissed off and because of previously low standards of behaviour from our Lords and Masters are to a large extent pre-conditioned to assume the worst.

My brother in law is about to die from pancreatic cancer within the next few days and his mother can't go and see him because of this lockdown. Watching Cummings bob and weave is pretty sick making.

But I do think there is a bigger game afoot here. The DMail have gone flat out bonkers over this, a front page and I think 10 pages inside, demanding his head and I think they have overreached themselves.

They have left themselves no wiggle room at all. If he does not go, and it looks like he won't, it'll pretty much be a first and their power will be much reduced walking around with a post-it note on their metaphoric forehand with Losers written on it.

Breaking the power of the traditional media outlets is right up there on Cummings' to-do list and he is taking his opportunity now.
On your bro-in-law, in the case you describe I don't see why she doesn't break lockdown for something that involves risk to her. So long as she doesn't then go shopping and visit other relatives, I would say let her go.

I think the majority of the public assume the wealthy stretch the rules and on that basis, tend to view the wealthy as hypocrites, so in the case of cummings, a lot of people doth protest too much. In addition, the media quite clearly despise the man and that is coming through loud and clear, which reinforces the smell of hypocrisy.

On your daily wail comments, the paper has being acting very oddly in recent months, but as its largely clickbait now, your probably right about its decline. All the media are perceived as scum and it doesn't help it selling a cause or three.
 
I'm not so sure about that, the majority of the public are mahoosively pissed off and because of previously low standards of behaviour from our Lords and Masters are to a large extent pre-conditioned to assume the worst.

My brother in law is about to die from pancreatic cancer within the next few days and his mother can't go and see him because of this lockdown. Watching Cummings bob and weave is pretty sick making.

But I do think there is a bigger game afoot here. The DMail have gone flat out bonkers over this, a front page and I think 10 pages inside, demanding his head and I think they have overreached themselves.

They have left themselves no wiggle room at all. If he does not go, and it looks like he won't, it'll pretty much be a first and their power will be much reduced walking around with a post-it note on their metaphoric forehand with Losers written on it.

Breaking the power of the traditional media outlets is right up there on Cummings' to-do list and he is taking his opportunity now.
There is also the question of exactly who made the unfortunate tweet yesterday; were they trying to get Cummings sacked today in the hope of saving themselves tomorrow?
 
How can so many intelligent rational people believe so much utter drivel. The biggest load of old bollocks since Blairs explenation of Iraq.
 

ancienturion

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ancienturion

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I haven't had my tea yet, you may realise ...
After that little lot I would suggest something more substantial than a cup of tea, such as brandy/vodka/gin/rum and any necessary addition.
 
I reckon he did not.
The very fact that there is no unequivocal answer is the issue.

Anyway, I'm sick of the whole mess and wish we could just move on. In the meantime I'm off to the cosplay forum to look at nubile Scooby Doo characters.
 

Dread

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Good Lord, so the Daily Mail are leftists now? First I've heard of it I have to say. Shaken me to my boots, that has.
The Daily Hate isn't a lefty rag (yet), but it is now a remainiac paper (since they changed editor last year), and as such it hates Dominic Cummings with a passion.
 
The Daily Hate isn't a lefty rag (yet), but it is now a remainiac paper (since they changed editor last year), and as such it hates Dominic Cummings with a passion.
Apparently, the Lord Rothermere's social life was suffering due to the pro-Brexit position taken by Paul Dacre.
 
Maybe - just maybe - he's all mouth and trousers as my Dad used to say.

Having just seen the unpleasant display of Mr Cummings' media show trial, I suspect they (the media) are going to find their attempts to manipulate the news and governance of the country to be under a rather more forensic examination than they anticipated when they raised this particular hue and cry.

#sadfaces
You’re right. The only problem is how are people going to be made aware of the ‘more forensic examination’?
Via the media?
There’s the conundrum.
 
Being a nasty suspicious sort, I can't help but wonder if the hype they spun about this CV19 thing in the beginning hasn't come back to bite them. They appear to be pushing the fear porn for all they're worth, and dissenting opinion saying that perhaps the whole lock down thing was an over reaction based on creaky Ferguson science, few facts and media driven hysteria to be seen to do something, is given no air time at all.

It is beginning to feel like a bit of manipulation of reality re CV19 is being driven hard, not taken in context with other deaths and medical issues, and brought to the fore for the purpose of covering certain arses. Those arses may be in a bit of bother if it all turns out to have been a waste of time destroying the economy for little return.
I heard a statistic from California today, in one county, they are recording 20 suicides per day and none from Covid 19.

There are usually something like 5 suicides a month but there has been a sudden increase due to you know what.

Also the average age (in the US) of people dying with covid-19 is higher than the national average age.

Some years into the future, i predict that somebody is going to do the calculations and realise that if we had done nothing, nothing at all about covid, then we would have had far fewer deaths.

Edited to add: from Coronavirus (COVID-19) roundup - Office for National Statistics


ONS.gov.uk said:
Up to 8 May 2020, there were 37,375 deaths registered in England and Wales involving the coronavirus (COVID-19) (21,145 men and 16,230 women).

The majority of deaths involving COVID-19 have been among people aged 65 years and over (33,098 out of 37,375), with 46% (15,079) of these occurring in the over-85 age group.

Our data are based on deaths registered in the stated period and include all deaths where “COVID-19” was mentioned on death certificates. We have published a summary of where you can find data on infection rates and deaths involving COVID-19 for England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.
How illuminating, the under 65's are for all intents and purposes, not dying of covid. Why are the media not reporting this with the accompanying "don't panic, it's the elderly that are going to get it, look after them" instead of all this mayhem.
 
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A mate in India is saying something similar re deaths from starvation/suicide as opposed to CV19 fatalities.

It's going to be an interesting bucket of worms when it gets kicked over, and I get the idea the media won't come out of it well.
 

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