the newspapers these days seem to be full of stories about cr*p military hardware from radio's that don't work to the VSTOL Joint Force Harrier too heavy for vertical take-off. Obviously these are big strategic projects where lots can, and do, go wrong. But even down here down near the bottom of the pond we seem to surrounded by useless equipment. In the world of EH we had the apollo microwave monitor, ferkin useless!!! God knows how many microwave ovens were tested, but I've never heard of one failing. The total cost in terms of time and effort testing these things must be outrageous. In fact the only redeeming feature of the monitor was that it gave you an excuse to travel around the District - those microwave ovens in the ACIOs on the coast were done to death during the summer months!!! There must be other bits of medical equipment that serve no useful purpose, what are they...............? PS Was using the apollo to blagg a noise survey just a rumour?