The Millies- For and against views?

#1
I read an article about the millies recently but all it had was pictures upon pictures of celebrities and what they would be wearing/who they are screwing and then, as an after note, a picture of Ricky Fergusson at the end as almost an afternote. It made me wonder who the millies are actually staged for, celebrities to get photographed or the service people to be awarded. The celebrities & the sun will all make some dosh/pr connections out of this but where will the soldiers be in 30,40 years time when all the war is forgotten?

Do they add value to, or overshadow presentation of medals by the Queen?

I don’t know enough about the awards back workings and the morale they create in receiving units, to personally draw a conclusion but it seems to me that the SUN is milking this today and tomorrow would be the first to print pictures of 'soldiers pissing on an iraqi' if it sold papers. But I am inherently distrusting of the SUN having worked freelance for them when I was studying to be journo so would like to hear opinions from both sides of the fence.

What are peoples views on the 'millies' awards by the sun. Do they do more for the soldiers who the praise or just put money in the pockets of the sun newspaper and help them to fill pages?
 
#8
When Gen Fry talks about the mawkishness of some public attitudes to the military - this sort of thing is bang on the money. It flies in the face of the culture of selfless service that was ingrained from day one. Serious concerns about the longevity of this bauble - once Afghan starts to draw down and public interest wanders, where does it go? Presumably tries to slip quietly out of the back door. As for the currant bun, I wouldn't wrap my chips in it.

PS I'm aware that you are also probably a stinking journo looking for a quote like this, but actually I don't care - fill your boots.
 
#9
All I saw were a load of D-listers wiping tears from their eyes inbetween quick glances to see if the camera was pointing at them.

About 50% of the uniforms seemed to be light blue aswell, what's going on there?
Dry your eyes sweetheart, you might get an award next year.
 
#10
It may originate from the sun, with a bunch of celebs getting off on it but if it directs attention to those that deserve it, as I believe it does, then who cares?

It was Churchill who said “If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favorable reference to the devil in the House of Commons.”
 
#13
And this circus fixes that how? Can't help but think the Sun 'n the celebs have more to gain - they can stick their hands in their overly deep pockets, without the cameras, if they want to do something really significant.
 

jarrod248

LE
Gallery Guru
#14
And this circus fixes that how? Can't help but think the Sun 'n the celebs have more to gain - they can stick their hands in their overly deep pockets, without the cameras, if they want to do something really significant.
I don't know mate but it seems more people talk about prime time TV than what happens in real life.
 

TheresaMay

ADC
Moderator
DirtyBAT
#18
It's a strange one.

When I joined up, squaddies were known more for their ability to invade the local femme fatale of a town as opposed to 'acts of bravery and heroism'. In fact, I distinctly remember during the early 90's preparing our cover stories before we'd go down town - anything but 'soldier' seemed preferable in the course of getting one's end away.

And yet over the last few years it seems we have become the 'in-thing' in terms of media and PR. The David Beckhams and Frank Lampards of today, all getting photographed with their H4H wristbands on, the Sun using us to sell more papers etc.

Some vast changes - but all I know is that telling people your in the forces nowadays is great for getting freebies, discounts, entry into events etc.
 

Rod924

LE
Kit Reviewer
#19
For fuck sake! Not this old chestnut again.

Publicity = Awareness = Respect = Donations.

Those complaining, hand wringing, time warp back to the 70's, 80's and 90's when we were a thing not to be considered, other than the Falklands!

Shakes head

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#20
Worries the shit out of me that some impressionable 16yr olds might think this sort of bullshit is reason enough to risk their legs. It's barely a step up from "what did you do in the war Daddy" ( in terms of sophistication, it is step backwards in morality in my eyes).
 

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