The Met has gone PC mad...

#1
Met's PC madness
By Richard Edwards Crime Reporter, Evening Standard
15 April 2005
Scotland Yard is at the centre of a political correctness row today after changing how it officially describes black and Asian people.

Metropolitan Police officers have been banned from using the phrase "ethnic minority".

Instead they must use the term "black and minority ethnic communities/people".
Sod catching criminals :? this sort of crap isn't even funny anymore.
 
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#3
Is there a special office in the Met where these things are thought up?

Must be a fun place to work if there is.........and I'll bet they don't have a token whitey.
 
#4
Well, if I was a Met copper, I'd be striding purposefully in to the Head Shed's office, and contemptuously flicking my warrant card on his desk, uttering the following words: "That's it cocker, I'm history. Ram yer career up yer tradesman's!" If enough coppers did precisely that, and then rung up the Daily Mail for a scoop story, the penny might start to drop. But none of them will. They'll blithely put up with all this shyte, whilst spouting about how much paperwork they've been lumbered with, and then proceed to pull motorists for doing 31 in a 30 limit so's they can accrue enough smartie points to keep the Chief Cnutstable in a taxpayer-funded Jag and Hobnobs. *******, the lot of 'em.

I used to be very pro-police - 'It's not yer beat plod's fault. It's the fast-tracked university clowns in management that's the problem.' Well, I don't believe that crap anymore. I'm glad I never got in the plod, as I would't have lasted five bloody minutes. If any coppers had any sense, they'd see where things are going and get the hell out of Dodge. But... "Well, it's me pension, see?" Yeah, I see. Ram it!

Hacked off of Basingstoke. :evil:
 
#5
Why do you think I've live abroad for the last seven years?
It's because perversely I feel more 'British' than in UK - If I call a thieving wog a thieving wog here because he is one then no one bats an eyelid....couldn't do than in Blighty I'm afraid. [and the fact that Bliar has been running the country for that amount of time too] ..Rant over.
 
#7
BuckFelize said:
Well, if I was a Met copper, I'd be striding purposefully in to the Head Shed's office, and contemptuously flicking my warrant card on his desk, uttering the following words: "That's it cocker, I'm history. Ram yer career up yer tradesman's!" If enough coppers did precisely that, and then rung up the Daily Mail for a scoop story, the penny might start to drop. But none of them will. They'll blithely put up with all this shyte, whilst spouting about how much paperwork they've been lumbered with, and then proceed to pull motorists for doing 31 in a 30 limit so's they can accrue enough smartie points to keep the Chief Cnutstable in a taxpayer-funded Jag and Hobnobs. *******, the lot of 'em.

I used to be very pro-police - 'It's not yer beat plod's fault. It's the fast-tracked university clowns in management that's the problem.' Well, I don't believe that crap anymore. I'm glad I never got in the plod, as I would't have lasted five bloody minutes. If any coppers had any sense, they'd see where things are going and get the hell out of Dodge. But... "Well, it's me pension, see?" Yeah, I see. Ram it!

Hacked off of Basingstoke. :evil:
Buck that is utter sh1te. If the rank and file old bill did that, the over sensitive P.C. head shed would just get rid of them and recruit more 'on message' tossers who'll tell them what they wanna hear.

When the Heirarchy realise they've got lots of 'representative' community aware, culturally sensitive young pups who couldnt nick themselves shaving and crime figures are rocketing, hopefully that will make the public realise the problem, and big organisations always bow to public pressure.

The rank and file coppers need to be in it to change it, but do need to express their views. Strongly.
 

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hogspawn said:
Buck that is utter sh1te. If the rank and file old bill did that, the over sensitive P.C. head shed would just get rid of them and recruit more 'on message' tossers who'll tell them what they wanna hear.

......
How would they get them ? Drop the entry standards again ?

They seem to have enough problems getting qualified coppers out of the raw material that's selected at the moment.
 
#9
My brother is a Met policeman in an Inner-City borough (he finished his probation period 3 months ago) and is a graduate with 3 years 'real world' work experience between leaving university and starting at Hendon. He's bright, very dedicated and has a very strong sense of right and wrong as well as a desire for justice as opposed to 'law'. He intends to get into a quite unpleasant aspect of police work, and I'm sure he'll be absolutely fantastic at it as he's blessed with self control that I doubt I'd be able to exercise in the face of the sort of people he'll be dealing with. I don't intend this to be a bleat about how wonderful I think my brother is BUT I wanted to point out that to a large degree the individual coppers detest the rules they have to live by, but it's the only way that they can do their job. I've been 'nicked' for speeding in the past so I can moan with the best of you about the police going after supposedly 'innocent' motorists instead of the ‘real’ law breakers; but there are more police officers who think like my brother than those who don't and their number one priority (whilst acting within the rules imposed on them) is to serve the law abiding communities and remove the anti-social scum from the streets.

I take issue with BuckFelize’s comment about them “blithely put up with all this shyte, whilst spouting about how much paperwork they've been lumbered with”: there’s nothing ‘blithely’ about it: my brother’s supposedly finished a shift at 04:00, had to do paperwork till 06:00, been told (whilst out on plod the night before) that he’s due in court the next morning (his kip time) & then, although he could cry off duty the next night, he goes back on so as not to let the lads in his team down. He gets angry & frustrated about it, but sees the benefit of his job above the form-filling PC system that he has to work within. If you think of the rules imposed on their behaviour as you see your RoE then you may understand it better.
 
#10
It is not the rank and file, it is the headsched and the politicians. The headsched do not have a clue what is going on, on the street and are very happy to comply with what ever ludicrous ideas the liberalist PC idiots come up with.

The politicians just want the Police to run like a business and could not understand why it did not make money. Hence the new points system and the multitude of speed cameras and other types of fines.

For those that then cry "It is all for road safety", blx, why don’t the Police chase foreign motorists who are caught speeding. Too much work! Far easier to make the fast buck from the UK peeps. Not much about preventing crime or making the roads safer in that is there.

Laws now seem to be made to fit some stupid type of Utopia of which all people are warm and friendly and only accidentally do something wrong. If they do they must be treated nice and shown the error they made. The crims and the terrorists are laughing their socks off.

Blx country, blx party in power.
 
#12
Police do not catch speeders.. they give themselves up to police. Unfortunately like everything else the government has given targets for road safety to police to achieve. Part of this is supposed to be achieved by speed cameras (I happen to disagree with how effective this is). Do not tar all police with the "speed cameras/catching real villains" cliche.
Most coppers I know would rather spend 8 hours of their shift on the streets helping/dealing with the public than the 4-5 hours it takes to process a prisoner through custody. The paperwork / procedures were brought in to protect the rights of both detainees and the police officers dealing with them. Unfortunately it has now been taken to the nth degree.

YES most bad ideas come from the muppets upstairs much the same as the armed forces
 
#13
GrumbleWeed said:
you think thats bad- i am a prison officer
we now cant use the word 'cells'. They are 'ROOMS' now ffs!!

it gets worse too.........


Yeah similar to us the powers that be wish us to refer to it as a 'house' not a hospital and 'guests' not patients 8O

If they are guests they can wipe their own arrses and I can stop locking doors to stop them leaving :twisted:
 
#14
How would they get them ? Drop the entry standards again ?

They seem to have enough problems getting qualified coppers out of the raw material that's selected at the moment.[/quote]

Oh they'll get them if it looks like accepting them will 'improve the public image' along the lines of - he might not be a very good street copper, but he can speak the languages of such and such a community.

Not much bloody use if he's teeth have been kicked down his throat cos he didn't react in time or read the situation!
 
#15
DozyBint said:
there’s nothing ‘blithely’ about it: my brother’s supposedly finished a shift at 04:00, had to do paperwork till 06:00, been told (whilst out on plod the night before) that he’s due in court the next morning (his kip time) & then, although he could cry off duty the next night, he goes back on so as not to let the lads in his team down. He gets angry & frustrated about it, but sees the benefit of his job above the form-filling PC system that he has to work within. If you think of the rules imposed on their behaviour as you see your RoE then you may understand it better.
Her her DB. Nothing is better at putting of little twoccers and mugger from being a pain in the arrse than when every couple of minutes they see old bill around them.

But you can't proactively patrol an area if you're filling in: a 'stop and account' form cos you've asked someone 'what are you up to'

or waiting outside the custody area cos there aren't enough Sgts to book in the prisoner,

or you're putting on one of the 3 different types of computer report on 3 different systems each taking 30 mins

Or awaiting an overpaid snotty shiny arrsed solicitor to turn up.

Then when finishing at 0800 with said prisoner (2 hours after go home time) you have a coffee and go to court @ 0930 to see a case you worked hard on get thrown out over a technicality/ get a piddling result because of pity for the scrote - not the victim!

Sorry

Rant over
 
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I quote

"With immediate effect, the term ‘visible ethnic minority’ and its abbreviation VEM is not to be used in language or in written form as a general description of staff, people or communities: it will only continue to be used for statistical reporting of organisational performance against workforce diversity targets.

The MPA have stated that appropriate terminology in relation to ethnicity is black and minority ethnic communities/people as a general descriptor - not black and ethnic minority, ethnic minority or visible ethnic minority. The term black and minority ethnic communities/people is used widely across the public sector including the GLA group of which the MPA and MPS is part.
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The_Monocled_Mutineer said:
I quote

"With immediate effect, the term ‘visible ethnic minority’ and its abbreviation VEM is not to be used in language or in written form as a general description of staff, people or communities: it will only continue to be used for statistical reporting of organisational performance against workforce diversity targets.

The MPA have stated that appropriate terminology in relation to ethnicity is black and minority ethnic communities/people as a general descriptor - not black and ethnic minority, ethnic minority or visible ethnic minority. The term black and minority ethnic communities/people is used widely across the public sector including the GLA group of which the MPA and MPS is part.
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L.O.B!
 
#18
Got some sympathy with BuckFelize and DozyBint. But I live in inner London, and the fact remains that street crime and all the other crap caused by the semi-feral scum that Bliar's Britain is breeding is getting worse. Man stabbed to death in his own hallway, Bernie Ecclestone's new Merc stripped of 2 wheels outside his front door, Nicola Horlick pistol whipped outside her front door - and all that was in the posh bits of town. The last two said they hadn't seen a copper on the streets (outside Westminster and in traffic cars) in living memory. Nor have I, and my other half's car was broken into when it was parked next to a Met Police notice warning to beware of car crime. I mean, what mental cripple thinks that a notice like that does any good? Meanwhile we get the new Met Commissioner (another Blair, God help us) changing the Met's logo and poncing about with Charles Clarke supporting ID cards. I mean, who's going to check them when there's no coppers on the streets to do it?! It doesn't take the brains of a rocket scientist to realise what is needed is more proper plods on our streets - not community wardens, not community support officers and not warning notices (which is what we get). Time to kick out all this PC crap and all the t*ssers who support it. Because if we don't, then vigilantism will start to creep in, as Mr Ecclestone's comments "we'll find him and deal with it" darkly hint.
Rant over - thanks for reading it.
 
#19
Tampa_Salt said:
Because if we don't, then vigilantism will start to creep in, .....
I don't think it'll be too long before people in the afflicted areas start to merge their Neighbourhood Watch groups with their baseball and cricket clubs...
 
#20
London - A city of 8 million people, with 30-35000 coppers. Enough to do the job?
 

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