Motorcycles are all very well, and I am sure discussion of the GSP1102 vs the Gazpro Knacker v0111 are fascinating. But when real men who can drive come together, there is only one thing to talk about. Its big. It stinks of diesel. It hasnt got brakes worth shit and dont start me on the heater. Or the air bag. Or DVD's in the headrests for the kids. It has a handbrake if one has remembered to chuck a brick into the back seat. Otherwise park it in gear on the flat. It makes clunking noises and doesnt exactly tear away from the lights. But give it 5 miles of muddy country roads and one can tear into almost anything on the planet. Its not a Renault. It is, by the grace of God and Queen Elizabeth 11, a Landy. About time we had a Landy forum in the view of some of us?