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The Knights Templar,,Do they really exist?..

#1
The Knights Templar have figured large in the Anders Breivik Trial,he even 'confessed' to visiting the UK branch in London.The Norwegian Authorities have gone to great length to deny the existence of such a group.However baring in mind that over the years various Governments have denied the existence of such diverse groups of secret societies such as The Freemasons,The Mafia,Opus Dei etc all of which have had a huge influence on society at one time or another.
So my question is 'Do the Knights Templar Exist'?......
 
#3
The Grand Commandery of Knights Templar, 145-157 Saint John Street, London, EC1V 4PW.‎ 020 7183 8428. Give them a ring and ask?
 
#7
The Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon - to give the 'Knights Templar' their official historical title - ceased to exist in 1312. Anything and everything else calling itself 'Knights Templar' or variations thereof since are either Masonic imitations, pure conspirazoid fantasy or modern day charitable 'revivals' laying claim to Templar heritage. There is absolutely nothing stopping anyone legally establishing an 'Order of the Knights Templar' or somesuch.

As an aside, Breivik is - I understand - a Protestant, and therefore would have been inadmissible to the historical Order (who would have regarded him and his fellow wannabes as heretics).
 
#10
There is absolutely nothing stopping anyone legally establishing an 'Order of the Knights Templar' or somesuch.
The legitimacy of the original Order came from the Pope - you can get together with a bunch of Walts in Ruritanian uniforms, and talk all the balls you like about secret societies etc, but unless someone can persuade Il Papa to hand out a certificate, you won't have any standing as a Papal Order of Knights.
 
#11
The legitimacy of the original Order came from the Pope - you can get together with a bunch of Walts in Ruritanian uniforms, and talk all the balls you like about secret societies etc, but unless someone can persuade Il Papa to hand out a certificate, you won't have any standing as a Papal Order of Knights.
Exactly. Legitimacy is the crucial term here. Breivik clearly knows little about the very heritage he lays claim to.
 

OldSnowy

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#14
I am now going to do the ARRSE equivalent of calling "Godwin's Law" - It's obviously all a plot by Jim Shortt to take over the world! Perhaps the LoF is really a front for the Templars. Or the Rosicrucians, Or the Druids, or Opus Dei. Who cares, frankly?

While sad men (and it is almost always men) feel the urge to dress up and spout mumbo-jumbo, then there'll always be a few idiots who actually believe it all.
 
#15
The Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon - to give the 'Knights Templar' their official historical title - ceased to exist in 1312. Anything and everything else calling itself 'Knights Templar' or variations thereof since are either Masonic imitations, pure conspirazoid fantasy or modern day charitable 'revivals' laying claim to Templar heritage. There is absolutely nothing stopping anyone legally establishing an 'Order of the Knights Templar' or somesuch.
Maybe so but then why does Royston cave in Hertfordshire have carvings of both Templar and Masonic origin? Place was sealed up and forgotten about for centuries
 

terroratthepicnic

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#19
If the original Templars still exist, they would be a small group that hides away and certainly keeps themselves to themselves.

There is no reason to suggest they do not exist, as the Hospitallers of St John are still around and very well established. The Templars were a much larger, richer and more influental than any other brotherhood of it's time. Although most templars were rounded up in early 14th century, I am sure some would have survived (possibly in Scotland) and passed on their rituals / beliefs to a trusted few.

It is also thought in some circles that the Freemasons are decendants of the 14th centrury Templars. Whether this is true or not, I wouldn't know.

So to answer the question possed by the OP, maybe/possibly, but your guess is as good as anyone elses.
 

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