• This is a stand-to for an incoming competition, one of our most expensive yet.
    Later this week we're going to be offering the opportunity to Win £270 Rab Neutrino Pro military down jacket
    Visit the thread at that link above and Watch it to be notified as soon as the competition goes live

The infamous BNP list and the suspended copper.

#1
Just seen on the news that a Police officer has been suspended pending investigation for being found on that list.

Now whilst I am no BNP supporter, I am a supporter of democracy.

With the BNP being a registered political party, is the ban on membership legal?

Just curious as, with the publication of the list, I can see many a legal fight coming from this.
 
#2
you start with banning the BNP, who admittedly are intolerant scumbags, but who next?

Nearly all employers now operate equal opportunities, and promote gay rights in the workplace, so do you ban muslims, orthodox Jews and Roman Catholics, who's religion preaches intolerance of gays (amongst others)

It's the thin end of the wedge I tell ya!

Love.

Adolf x
 
#4
I dare say there will be a few of my colleagues on this side of the water watching how this develops.
 
#5
I am no supporter of the BNP.

Whether members of the police should be banned from joining legitimate (albeit highly unpleasant) political parties is one question. But there is another allied to that.

I am puzzled as to why they are banned from being a member of a right wing party (which is a legal party, with elected representatives on numerous councils) but they are NOT banned from being members of the equivalent left wing parties. Why is that?
 
#7
....and that they ban their own white officers from being full members of the black police officers association.

I alsothink that the BNP suck
 
#10
Question? Would a member of any UK Constabulary be banned from being a member of Sinn Fein?

As perverse as it seems would Neu Arbeit turn a blind eye (no pun intended Cyclops) to this.
 
#12
The British National Party stands for the preservation of the national and ethnic character of the British people and is wholly opposed to any form of racial integration between British and non-European peoples. It is therefore committed to stemming and reversing the tide of non-white immigration and to restoring, by legal changes, negotiation and consent, the overwhelmingly white makeup of the British population that existed in Britain prior to 1948.
now if a copper was in court giving evidence against (say) a vietnamese commercial cannabis grower (or any other type of minority),and it wasnt a strong case for the prosecution, during the trial the defence gets up and states 'the policeman witness giving evidence is a member of a political party that advocates the ethnic cleansing of minoritys from the uk' it could be made to look like the copper was (maybe) acting out of personal spite or hatred against minoritys, then the evidence is in doubt and any half decent lie adjuster oops, sorry, lawyer will get the scum bags off and thousands of pounds have been wasted.
it puts the copper in a compromisable position, thats the ploblem, the bill headshed dont really care if the coppers beliefs are those of the BNP or not, but by being a member of the BNP the coppers evidence is compromised if the race card is played. and if a copper cant see this and hes stupid enough to join the BNP anyway then IMHO the dumb fecker shouldnt be a policeman.

thats the way i see the ploblem anyway, but i'm not a lie adjuster oops! sorry, lawyer so i'm probebly wrong.
 
#13
Ticonderoga said:
Question? Would a member of any UK Constabulary be banned from being a member of Sinn Fein?

As perverse as it seems would Neu Arbeit turn a blind eye (no pun intended Cyclops) to this.
I think u would get a rather harsh chat from SB and then find yourself on service confidence ...... or get sacked by a cbtral board for not booking out your breathyliser (the MPS version of walking on the cracks in the pavement)

Trotsky
 
#14
So would a copper be banned from being a member of CND? Lets say he was giving evidence against a soldier or fellow Police officer that had used violence against an anti war or anti nuclear protestor? Surely membership of the CND would make him biased?

How about a member of the Green Party that was giving evidence against someone found cutting down trees or fly tipping?

How about a member of the BPOA giving evidence against a white man that had assaulted a Black Police officer?

How about a member of Sinn Fein giving evidence against a Prod?

How about a member of Opus Dei giving evidence against a muslim?

How about a devout muslim giving evidence against anyone that was a Kaffir?

See where this is going? Political affiliations should have NO bearing UNTIL it becomes apparent that they are ACTUALLY subverting justice.

If they are going to ban membership of the BNP then they should also ban ALL religions, ALL political parties and MOST DEFINITLEY ALL membership of the Masons.

But if they did that, they would be Communists, wouldn't they?

So what do you suggest? A none racial, none religious, none political (except the PC recognised type of politics) Police force? I beleive they were called the KGB in the USSR.
 
#15
good post AS.

we rilly is fecked unless we get some lawers into this thread.
 
#16
DrStealth said:
good post AS.

we rilly is fecked unless we get some lawers into this thread.
Yep, didn't want it turning into another "OH GOD LOOK AT THE BNP LIST" thread.

All I really wanted was the legal stand point which is why I put it here.

Please don't keep treating this as the other thread peeps, the other thread is the place to comment on our own views of them.

I really want to know what the lawyers think. If we keep on like this it'll get binned to another forum and we won't ever get to know.
 
#17
Trotsky said:
Ticonderoga said:
Question? Would a member of any UK Constabulary be banned from being a member of Sinn Fein?

As perverse as it seems would Neu Arbeit turn a blind eye (no pun intended Cyclops) to this.
I think u would get a rather harsh chat from SB and then find yourself on service confidence ...... or get sacked by a cbtral board for not booking out your breathyliser (the MPS version of walking on the cracks in the pavement)

Trotsky
I very much doubt either would happen mate. You've no idea how topsy turvy things are in my force, sorry, "service". Nothing at all surprises me at work these days. Sad but true. Case in point - ok to wander around wearing a tracksuit top with a GAA logo for a club named after a hunger striker. Complaint made about an RUC plaque in a station office. Both incidents in the same station. Members here are still allowed to be a member of the orange/hibs/apprentice boys etc but this has to be "declared" and is discouraged. Hence why I quoted that some of my colleagues will be watching any potential legal challenges to this BNP bloke with interest. (Just for the record - The only lodge I've ever been in was a travel lodge. I got bed bug bites there too. Wouldn't go back)
 
#18
Enter the Lawyer........

Ok Im not a real one but heres something I found when the decision was made to "Ban" officers from joining:

"In a statement announcing the policy Acpo president Chris Fox said chief police officers were totally committed to compliance with the Race Relations Amendment Act 2000.

He said he was "extremely pleased" to be able to take that compliance further.

Mr Fox said: "Under this policy, no member of the police service, whether police officer or police staff, may be a member of an organisation whose constitution, aims, objectives or pronouncements contradict the general duty to promote race equality."


BBC Linky

Note it says "Police officers and staff could face dismissal if they join the British National Party

It will be very interesting to see the outcome of any dismissals!
 
#19
schweik said:
I am no supporter of the BNP.

Whether members of the police should be banned from joining legitimate (albeit highly unpleasant) political parties is one question. But there is another allied to that.

I am puzzled as to why they are banned from being a member of a right wing party (which is a legal party, with elected representatives on numerous councils) but they are NOT banned from being members of the equivalent left wing parties. Why is that?
Just a small point, during a very dull afternoon a BNP flyer came through the door, decided to have a gander out of idle curiosity and it would appear that the vast majority of the BNP policies are of the left wing/old socialist variety, yet they are branded far right
 
#20
Surely its a ban on extremist parties of any flavour? I recall being told a similar thing when I joined up - No BNP, no Communism.

I stand to be corrected, though.
 

Similar threads

Latest Threads

Top