The Implementation Thread.

That's all just devine. Unfortunately for you WTO is becoming more and more likely. You've been gang banged by the EU and you're about to get a bill for the pleasure, in the form of tax harmonisation and the Southern states sticking the begging bowl out.. Good luck. Still it made Varadker, feel all tough and superior until he spotted the train coming.

P. S. Do you think the UK, will be bunging you another loan to pull you out of the shit as per 2008?
Not for NI it isn’t ... only the people of NI can change that

WTO rules, FTA, sanctions whatever

Boris has already said (and it is U.K. Law) that NI remains in the UCC
 
when trailer arrives from U.K. in Belfast
As a minor point, a trailer arriving in Belfast from Newry or Lisburn will also be arriving from the UK. NI is in the UK.

it will be subject to UCC. Therefore it must be cleared through customs. That means a customs SAD and a Customs routing. Has the IT system been updated to allow the changes and increased volume?
You've said a number of times that goods arriving in NI from the rest of the UK must be cleared through customs. You quoted a big block of WA text, but were not specific as to what parts of this apply to your statement. Could you please point out to me which paragraphs state this? I am not disputing you on this, but I am saying that if this is indeed the case it is not obvious to me where in your quoted text this is covered.

Has the means to worked out to prevent diversion into the EU...
This was covered by your quoted text. The decision will be apparently be based on whether it is being further processed in NI, the destination of the good, the nature and value of the good, the nature of the movement, and how much incentive there is for onward movement into the EU from NI. In other words, they seem to be taking a risk based approach and mainly concerned with stopping large scale smuggling.
 
Intrastat is not a customs declaration!

Ireland implements the UCC & Interstat fully
Intrastat is part of the declaration system, or perhaps you fill one in when you go down the shops. Of course Ireland Implements intrastate fully :mrgreen:. Do please remind me how long you were a customs officer for?
 
Intrastat is part of the declaration system, or perhaps you fill one in when you go down the shops. Of course Ireland Implements intrastate fully :mrgreen:. Do please remind me how long you were a customs officer for?
Intrastat is for goods movements within the EU and is used for statistics. As there is free movement of goods.

customs declarations are used for movements Outside the EU.
 
Intrastat is for goods movements within the EU and is used for statistics. As there is free movement of goods.

customs declarations are used for movements Outside the EU.
Oh good we're getting to the nub.
Now the original C88 layout had the status box, this determined if it was an export or intra community goods. Do you remember the TTCN box, that feeds intrastat and it's linked to the licence indicator which is an obligatory to fill in whether it is an export or not because it's also linked to the CAP and Processing relief fields. Irrespective of what the EU said no C88 no movement. Now simplified procedure allowed for CMR's i.e invoices intra community but the companies had to notify intrastat of the movement and it was that that the VAT officer looked for in relation to claimed exported goods relief. Got me? good.!Don't try to bamboozle me. I did exports and imports exclusively between 1987 and 1996 at various ports, reconciled C88 t forms with agents until transferring to passenger work then and was frequently asked to help out with Carnets and the like way after that. Before that I worked in Customs intel and Collectors office so I know how the money gets collected and apportioned and the scams traders got up to. The whole point of Harmonised documents was they would be used either for export/import or intra community movements.
 
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Not for NI it isn’t ... only the people of NI can change that

WTO rules, FTA, sanctions whatever

Boris has already said (and it is U.K. Law) that NI remains in the UCC
There is no valid economic reason for the UK doing any form of trade deal with the EU. WTO rules would work perfectly fine from 1st January 2021 for all businesses as long as the infrastructure is in place everyone predicted utter chaos on the 1st February this year it simply didn't happen though personally I would prefer us to rejoin EFTA.
 
There is no valid economic reason for the UK doing any form of trade deal with the EU. WTO rules would work perfectly fine from 1st January 2021 for all businesses as long as the infrastructure is in place everyone predicted utter chaos on the 1st February this year it simply didn't happen though personally I would prefer us to rejoin EFTA.
But the WA Issue still stands it is a completely different issue to the future trading relationship.
 
But the WA Issue still stands it is a completely different issue to the future trading relationship.
Why, what relevance does the WA have to internal control? The whole WA is about the control of trade and the relevance to it of the ECJ, which you might have noticed is now being challenged by Germany in terms of the validity against the Grundgezetz. Now whoever loses that one, It could be bye bye EU or farewell national laws- which we incidentally will not be part of. You know that thing about Kartoffelsalat- one's guessing the Irish Tseosach is watching that one very carefully.
 
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But the WA Issue still stands it is a completely different issue to the future trading relationship.
Yes fully agree on WA my point was Switzerland copes with trading globally and with trading with the EU thru EFTA there is no reason the UK cant.
 
Not for NI it isn’t ... only the people of NI can change that

WTO rules, FTA, sanctions whatever

Boris has already said (and it is U.K. Law) that NI remains in the UCC
Your faith in the WA is rather odd. It's very imprecise and essentially gives us carte blanche to do what the feck we want.

The only thing that could encourage us to play the white man would be offering us something we want but given the current offer is we want to steal all your fish and then send you a massive bill for the favour I don't see any of the NI bullshit getting beyond something to urgently consider at some point.
 
This seems like the most relevant thread. The UK have announced they intend to apply for membership in the CPTPP trade treaty.
U.K. wants to join Pacific trade pact as trade deal with Canada approaches its end
"U.K. membership would help turbocharge its trade with the bloc by opening up new markets and opportunities for U.K. businesses and encouraging greater inward investment," the British High Commission in Ottawa confirmed in a news release. "This ambition has previously been welcomed by all 11 member countries."
The CPTPP is a free trade treaty covering 11 Pacific countries, Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore and Vietnam. The current 11 members constitute 13% of global GDP. With the addition of Britain that will account for 16%.

The UK have not made a formal application to join yet, but has been conducting talks with other CPTPP for months.

Canada's trade minister spoke with Britain's trade minister on the issue and also released a statement supporting Britain's intention to join.
International Trade Minister Mary Ng spoke with British trade secretary Liz Truss about the U.K.'s CPTPP ambitions for the first time last Friday.

"While there have not been any formal applications from any country to join the CPTPP, we welcome the U.K.'s interest," said Ryan Nearing, Ng's spokesperson, in an email to CBC News.

"We look forward to expanding the CPTPP to include new members that are able to meet the ambitious and high standards laid out in the agreement."
Britain's High Commissioner in Ottawa, Susan le Jeune d'Allegeerschecque, also released a press statement regarding the CPTPP.
"U.K. accession to CPTPP would provide a platform to work even more closely to strengthen rules-based international trade, building on our commitments to fight protectionism, remove trade barriers and promote supply chain resilience in a post-COVID world," said British High Commissioner to Canada Susan le Jeune d'Allegeerschecque in the press release.
The lobby group for big business in Canada said their members will welcome the UK joining the CPTPP, but they are more concerned about ensuring that the Canada-Britain bilateral trade treaty goes through on time.
Mark Agnew, director of international trade policy for the Canadian Chamber of Commerce, said his members would welcome the U.K.'s membership in the CPTPP — but the Chamber really wants to focus on Canada's bilateral talks, since the British have been insisting that they will not extend their Brexit transition period beyond the end of the year.

"CPTPP is a medium- to long-term endeavour and much more complicated, given the number of parties involved," Agnew said.

The story mentions that Canada are still waiting on finding out the terms of Britain's trade relationship with the EU before finalising our own direct trade negotiations with Britain. I have mentioned this in previous posts.
Due to the U.K.'s departure from the European Union, the terms of Canada's Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement (CETA) with the EU continue to apply to British trade only until the end of 2020.

After that, the U.K. must either negotiate its own bespoke bilateral agreement with Canada or come to an understanding on how to "roll over" (continue) the CETA with small modifications deemed necessary by both sides.

Negotiating a CETA rollover is thought to be the faster of the two options, but negotiations toward either option are stalled at the moment. Canada wants to know the terms of Britain's future trading relationship with the continent before finalizing its arrangements with London — and the terms of that relationship are uncertain now because U.K. and EU negotiators have been unable to reach a deal.
 
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