The GWOT shifts its focus to the USA?

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A West Point think tank has issued a paper warning America about “far right” groups such as the “anti-federalist” movement, which supports “civil activism, individual freedoms and self-government.”
Individual freedoms, eh? Off to jail with these blackguards!
 
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I'm not a sociologist or political by any stretch, but isn't the 'think tank', beside being politically biased to 'liberals', missing the bloody obvious - the conflict being the state vs. the citizens? If this really was a 'right' vs. 'left' thing, the Republicans should have wiped the floor with the Democrats in the last election.
 
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Individual freedoms, eh? Off to jail with these blackguards!
Ah but how it tends to work is that only the right sort of people tend to enjoy these individual freedoms and then only the right sort of freedom. I bet those freedoms don't extend to abortion for example.
 
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Ah but how it tends to work is that only the right sort of people tend to enjoy these individual freedoms and then only the right sort of freedom. I bet those freedoms don't extend to abortion for example.
Well, naturally, if they disagree with the majority/mainstream opinion, they must perforce be dangerous criminals.
 
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That distant rumbling noise you heard was JJH blowing his top.



the report says. “The far right represents a more extreme version of conservatism, as its political vision is usually justified by the aspiration to restore or preserve values and practices that are part of the idealized historical heritage of the nation or ethnic community.”



Evil doers! Put down those black rifles!
 
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In all honesty mind you the last time anyone attempted to modify the gun laws significantly you got a train of events which culminated in the Alfred P. Murrah building shifting twenty feet sideways with a little assistance from a Ryder van full of ANFO.

So they probably have a point.
 
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I'm still struggling with the concept of a leftie liberal thinktank at the Upper Hudson River School for Young Gentlemen and Ladies. I always had the sense that West Point was a bit like an Ordensburg, just not so fluffy and caring.
 
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I'm still struggling with the concept of a leftie liberal thinktank at the Upper Hudson River School for Young Gentlemen and Ladies. I always had the sense that West Point was a bit like an Ordensburg, just not so fluffy and caring.
Judging from the comments below the article, West Point has been infiltrated by a fifth column of pinkie, progressive socialists. I blame Napoleon.
 
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This must be what happens when you combine officer training with a university! Bloody leftie academics!
 

Travelgall

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I'm still struggling with the concept of a leftie liberal thinktank at the Upper Hudson River School for Young Gentlemen and Ladies. I always had the sense that West Point was a bit like an Ordensburg, just not so fluffy and caring.
It's a University, university tenure doesn't tend to encourage reality - even in Hogwarts. Are there groups in the US that could cause problems - yup as Timothy McVeigh proves. Does this mean that this is where the main threat to the US comes from - probably not.
 
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From the study:

Whereas during the 2000s there is an increase in the number of victims as a result of the rise in the number of attacks, in terms of productivity of the attacks, there are no significant changes in the last 15 years.
In other words, we cannot argue that far-right violence has become more sophisticated or effective in increasing the number of victims caused by its violent activities. This is an intriguing finding, especially when considering that what is termed the “new terrorism” of the last 30 years is characterized by significant operational advances.

Hence, in periods during which many streams of terrorism have shown improvement in their operational capabilities and, as a result, an increase in their tendency to engage in mass casualty attacks, the violent American far right shows stagnation, at least in terms of its ability to enhance the harm it generates.

Or in layman's terms - 'they're as thick as mince'.

And interesting to see that this isn't a Suth'n thing.
 
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It's a University, university tenure doesn't tend to encourage reality - even in Hogwarts. Are there groups in the US that could cause problems - yup as Timothy McVeigh proves. Does this mean that this is where the main threat to the US comes from - probably not.
It looks as if some elements of the US Armed Forces are thinking of carving out a new role for themselves after the Afghan drawdown.
 
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There is a significant problem, which has been not in the favour of terrorism pundits for a while (it was left to dusty corners of academia, usually nice religious studies departments or -God help us - the sociologists or psychologists).

The US extreme right wing has bubbled away nicely for years. The Silent Brotherhood was out robbing banks and killing Jewish radio talk-show hosts before they died in a rather unfortunate stand-off with federal officers.

But the whole history can be woven into a superficially compelling narrative, from the Silent Brotherhood to the 1990s crack-down leading to Waco, Ruby Ridge and finally the Oklahoma City Bomb.

The strain of apocalyptic mythology that runs through the movement is compelling. It draws in the NWO black helicopter people, the armed Odinists and the Sovereign Citizen movement.

The FBI got very good at defusing stand-offs, and went from referring to david koresh's discussions with their negotiators as "bible babble" to now bringing in academic specialists to the Critical Incident Response Group.

There are any number of solid academic texts you can go to check out my theories if you like.

Michael Barkun is excellent on the Radcial Racist religious right, the others are on my bookcase somewhere.

(In my usual slightly earnest post-graduate research fellow manner, there is a reading list if anyone wants it).

Have a peek at The Montana Freeman, which was the last really high-profile one in the US.

The ideology of the Freemen is what appears to have been transplanted to the UK as the Freeman of the Land philosophy. Which may be linked to why the press are full of "Lone Wolf" threat stories - where we don't know (allegedly) where the next terrifying attack may come from.

Of course, a cynic might ask that with Osama dead, drone strikes having a steady attrition against AQ and the long term obsolescence of AQ through the Arab Awakening (or spring, whatever you care to call it).....all the counter-terrorism budget in a time of austerity won't justify itself.

But no one could be that cynical, could they?

Not at all like a "mumbai style attack" which meant UK plod just got bigger and better guns (apparently). Toys for the boys that gravitate to that sort of thing. Never mind better understanding of the issue. That never got anyone anything shiny that goes bang, did it.

After a while it all seems wearily on a par with "he's behind you!"
 
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It looks as if some elements of the US Armed Forces are thinking of carving out a new role for themselves after the Afghan drawdown.
I did wonder if this was something that should have been done by a LE rather than military think tank, it's bound to set the paranoia meters twitching in some quarters. And the author's bio suggests he is definitely an agent of ZOG.
 

Travelgall

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There's an extreme left wing too historically - even in the US. Various Bomb Chuckers in the 1920's, Weather Underground, Annimal Rights, Environmental Rights, Sean Penn films etc. But their answer to everything is more government, so government doesn't dislike them quite as much.
 

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