The General Election : The Guardian Backs...

Hello,

the Guardian has just announced which party it will be backing at the General Election.....The Liberal Democrats:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/apr/30/the-liberal-moment-has-come

Cynics will no doubt put this down to the prospect of the Guardian's public sector advertising revenue drying up with a Labourless government.



tangosix.

 

you will be telling us next that Times is a conservative paper...........

 

The most left-wing party standing nationally? Your surprise comes from where?

 

The most left wing party is currently the bnp closely followed by socialist labour.

 

A joke surely.

 

Only to right leaning members who joined for reasons of racist bigotry.

 

I would have said the Greens were the most left wing party standing throughout the UK. Hippies in the midst of being taken over by hard-line Marxists.

 

I understand left wing to be essentially egalitarian.

IE. A person or group who believes in the equality of all people, favoring social equality; "a classless society."

Hardly defines the BNP. or fucking Labour anymore either.

 

The BNP are National Socialists, about as left wing as you get.



Left wing tutors have spent decades desperately trying to re-brand National Socialism is extreme right wing. Even coming up with some BS about how the left/right line is actually a circle. No its just a lie.

 

You are mistaking social/class equality for national/racial equality.

 

I take your point, but strict definition of left wing would exclude the BNP. We'll have to disagree, as many do on this one, I'll stick with this.....

The British National Party (BNP) is a far-right political party formed as a splinter group from the National Front by John Tyndall in 1982.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party

 

You mean their entire revenue stream?


Gruniard should be classed as an socialist advertising magazine, not a newspaper/

 

I would encourage you to read a little wider.

The main grouping of 'the Left', Socialists, have made it their raison d'etre to oppose racists and Fascists. Ergo, racists and Fascists are of 'the Right'. Simple isn't it? Hang on, do you believe everything that Socialists want you to believe?

Socialists are not the sole occupants of the Left, and Nationalism is a position that both Left and Right can hold.

The two most notorious Fascists in history grew out of Socialism not Capitalism nor Conservatism. Fascism and Communism/Socialism are irrevocably at odds because they are fighting for the same ground, the same supporter and the same political space. There is never room for both in the same place.

 

I tried to read it once when it was left on the train, not surprisingly, complete load of shite. One redeeming thing about the Sun..it has the best racing pages on a Saturday, the rest can be chucked.

 

I'd agree with your general theme, but I'd argue that the Nazis based themselves largely on warped visions of the past (ethnic purity), which tends to be a far-right trait (hence all the non-pure people who were murdered). In contrast, Stalin etc. based their ideology on a warped far-left vision of of the future (hence all those people killed during the USSR's forced industrialisation). Both cocks of course whose policies resulted in mountains of bodies, but both with a distinct vision.