So we have got NATO in a tangle as the French and the Germans pussy out (or whatever u want to call it) We have us and the yanks ready to go for it on the one side Numerous other NATO countries e.g. Turkey ready to go for it Numerous other NATO countries not ready to go for it e.g. Russia The UN is fairly inactive and indesicive on everything at the moment, people are claiming it no longer functions, others claim we should use it properly. As a result of unrest and distrust between NATO countries the EU will be effected, possibly in trade/politics/relations Can people see a huge break down in what little unity we had on the horizon? Does this ******** in the middle east who fancy's rattleing his cage spell the end and/or breakdown for the above organisations? What should we do as the UK, stick with the yanks (are longest serving allies) who we dislike for some reason and the smaller EU countries (e.g italy/turkey/spain). Or stick with the French/Germans, the main EU countries who we also dislike. Should we ignore the UN and thus undermine it or stick with it and be very ineifficient and indecisive? What does the future hold? This should be enough to spark somthing off! Personally a Union of the north atlantic might be an idea?