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as an aside, his autobiography is great. Three things struck me though, firstly in a slightly macabre Alan Partridge-esque way, nearly every chapter ends the same - someone dies on an expedition and it’s very sad. Secondly you could read it as him being either an incompetent climber because on every expedition someone dies, or simply the lucky bugger of that gang that managed to survive. Thirdly, he dobs in goats
 
Increasingly reading of livestock, including family pets, disappearing overnight. Around my neck of the woods 'they' are even slaughtering sheep in the field. Is this scaremongering by the press or an increasing problem?
 
Increasingly reading of livestock, including family pets, disappearing overnight. Around my neck of the woods 'they' are even slaughtering sheep in the field. Is this scaremongering by the press or an increasing problem?
No it isn't scaremongering. There was a spate of sheep being killed and butchered in the field a couple of months ago. I think it was in Bedfordshire, but stand to be corrected.
 
Increasingly reading of livestock, including family pets, disappearing overnight. Around my neck of the woods 'they' are even slaughtering sheep in the field. Is this scaremongering by the press or an increasing problem?
Unfortunately too true for a number of reasons.
cats and pet dogs caught and sold on for use as “ bait” to keep fighting dogs sharp.( if your lab is a bit handy it will have a front leg broken first to,stop it damaging the fighter) pikies of a particularily unsavoury bent around Staffordshire and Derbyshire into this.
i cannot discuss slaughtering sheep in the back of vans en route to northern towns, as it is “ haram” to talk about it. Wink wink!)
 

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We should finish the spring barley tomorrow, initially it flattered to deceive at 3t/acre, but today I doubt it has done 2.4.
Incredibly hot today, had to stop combining twice to avoid overheating the engine. If it doesn't cool down soon getting grain temperatures down in store will be a challenge.
I bought some garlic molasses licks for the cattle to compliment the Flypor pour on fly treatment and they have given them a complete swerve.View attachment 496641View attachment 496642View attachment 496643
Mate and neighbour started harvest yesterday afternoon sp. barley, nowt but, after the autumn we had, true to form rain stopped play after a couple of hours.....
There's a certain degree of 'twitchiness' regarding combining after Monday nights storms......
They had 18mm 1.5 miles away, us 28mm, a mate further NW by three miles reckoned 80mm but I didn't dare post that without verification....he was right.
Three miles further again ( Ribble/ Douglas Estuary) my ex Bil was spraying veg when the heavens opened......he struggled to actually get out of the field with a 160hp tractor, apparently 'The Marsh' reclaimed, prime veg land is just that again.....150mm of rain recorded on one agronomy weather station.
The convergence of two 'Heat Lightening ' systems overhead with no thunder was something I've never seen before , truly Biblical.
Locusts booked in for weekend!

ETA.
Barley (planet) not as bad as expected, but tis early days.
Increasingly reading of livestock, including family pets, disappearing overnight. Around my neck of the woods 'they' are even slaughtering sheep in the field. Is this scaremongering by the press or an increasing problem?
An EXISTING problem.....
Although nothing can compare to those other Historic Cases in our Mill Towns, there is a recognised, and go be fair to Lancs Plod active effort to curtail the practice.....
The nearer Blackburn, Burnley etc. the more endemic....draw your own conclusions!
There was a film on Ewe tube ( swidt) of a backstreet butcher operation a year or so ago...Trading Standards tried to prosecute, but the line was
" Its all for our own use, innit" is a legitimate defence.

There has been an odd prosecution a while back but they were East Europeans who were p#ssed up and chasing em round the Moors in broad daylight..
Their defence being " We thought they were wild animals, like back home" or summat like.....

A mate had his ten (expensive) Tups in a small croft (field not Scottish homestead) in front of farmhouse for pre tupping MOT and 'lost' four one night....
Fortunately the farmhouse CCTV captured a Toyota people carrier with several berobed chaps chase round and grab em.....

Guess what, 'No vehicle registered to that index plate'.........

Its definitely a 'thing' but when I was a kid, nigh on 50yrs ago I remember the shock when a large charolais bullock was found one morning sans 'arrse end' neatly skinned out two miles away....
The farmer was a complete r sole however, and the word was it was a disgruntled ex employee levelling up the debit column.

Edit.
Apologies for repetition, half way through typing when A level results stepdaughter appeared!
 
Mate and neighbour started harvest yesterday afternoon sp. barley, nowt but, after the autumn we had, true to form rain stopped play after a couple of hours.....
There's a certain degree of 'twitchiness' regarding combining after Monday nights storms......
They had 18mm 1.5 miles away, us 28mm, a mate further NW by three miles reckoned 80mm but I didn't dare post that without verification....he was right.
Three miles further again ( Ribble/ Douglas Estuary) my ex Bil was spraying veg when the heavens opened......he struggled to actually get out of the field with a 160hp tractor, apparently 'The Marsh' reclaimed, prime veg land is just that again.....150mm of rain recorded on one agronomy weather station.
The convergence of two 'Heat Lightening ' systems overhead with no thunder was something I've never seen before , truly Biblical.
Locusts booked in for weekend!

ETA.
Barley (planet) not as bad as expected, but tis early days.
An EXISTING problem.....
Although nothing can compare to those other Historic Cases in our Mill Towns, there is a recognised, and go be fair to Lancs Plod active effort to curtail the practice.....
The nearer Blackburn, Burnley etc. the more endemic....draw your own conclusions!
There was a film on Ewe tube ( swidt) of a backstreet butcher operation a year or so ago...Trading Standards tried to prosecute, but the line was
" Its all for our own use, innit" is a legitimate defence.

There has been an odd prosecution a while back but they were East Europeans who were p#ssed up and chasing em round the Moors in broad daylight..
Their defence being " We thought they were wild animals, like back home" or summat like.....

A mate had his ten (expensive) Tups in a small croft (field not Scottish homestead) in front of farmhouse for pre tupping MOT and 'lost' four one night....
Fortunately the farmhouse CCTV captured a Toyota people carrier with several berobed chaps chase round and grab em.....

Guess what, 'No vehicle registered to that index plate'.........

Its definitely a 'thing' but when I was a kid, nigh on 50yrs ago I remember the shock when a large charolais bullock was found one morning sans 'arrse end' neatly skinned out two miles away....
The farmer was a complete r sole however, and the word was it was a disgruntled ex employee levelling up the debit column.

Edit.
Apologies for repetition, half way through typing when A level results stepdaughter appeared!
Is she smiling?
 
Unfortunately too true for a number of reasons.
cats and pet dogs caught and sold on for use as “ bait” to keep fighting dogs sharp.( if your lab is a bit handy it will have a front leg broken first to,stop it damaging the fighter) pikies of a particularily unsavoury bent around Staffordshire and Derbyshire into this.
i cannot discuss slaughtering sheep in the back of vans en route to northern towns, as it is “ haram” to talk about it. Wink wink!)

Rustlers should have the same punishment we had back in the 1800s.
 

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War Hero
Is she smiling?
It's complicated.
( With six daughters/ stepdaughters what else should one expect)....

She's been accepted by her chosen University ( Nottingham) to pursue her chosen subjects ( Pharmacy).
( Excellent)
She was assessed down from an expected A to a B in one subject due to
" Ms. ********* who never liked me after our trip to Thailand"......
Hmm.
( Not so good, Nay disaster, with vengeance promised to be delivered from upon high!)

She was expected to stay for a 'leisurely lunch ' with a small glass of fizz or two, however her 'friend' has appeared unexpectedly, up on leave, so I've been blown out!
(Sad)
This in itself poses a couple of questions to a layman and semi concerned Stepdad.....

Does The Queen's Guard consist of all the Guard Regiments?
Are Irish Guardsmen any more or less to be concerned about then any other squaddies?

I suspect she could well be smiling by now.....
I doubt academia has anything to do with it!
 

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War Hero
I'm hoarding it anyway...

Next Thursday I've got two sixteen yr olds awaiting O level (or whatever they're called nowadays) results....
Ones had a very expensive education, and aspires to become a Love Island contestant, nothing else matters ( except from winding her Mother up)
T'other is a real grafter, but at a 'Bog Standard Comp'. At last parents evening one of her teachers had to ask her name ( I sh*t you not) ...
She's been on track for straight A's but due to this downgrading bollox anything could happen....

Tears and tantrums from at least three combatants expected!

Oh, and Daughter No.1 finally accepted her place at Harper Adams......
Foregoing her Beloved in Capetown is already causing much wailing and gnashing of teeth....

My Fly fishing mate is on his way, I might manage to scrounge a day on the Hodder or Lune.....
I might not return.
 
We have about 15 acres of spring barley left to cut when the rain stops; we will need some good weather as the way it is yielding I won't have enough to fill the drier. I can take out 1-2 % using the fan in the bins but no more.
We moved the cows and calves (and bull) onto the Down on Wednesday. They now have 200 acres to mooch about in, its only rough downland grazing , but that is what breeds like the Sussex are good at utilising.
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Dog helped in her own way
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We have about 15 acres of spring barley left to cut when the rain stops; we will need some good weather as the way it is yielding I won't have enough to fill the drier. I can take out 1-2 % using the fan in the bins but no more.
We moved the cows and calves (and bull) onto the Down on Wednesday. They now have 200 acres to mooch about in, its only rough downland grazing , but that is what breeds like the Sussex are good at utilising.View attachment 497433View attachment 497434Dog helped in her own way
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We got all the winter wheat off finally a week or so ago, fields have been fertilized and worked in ready for spring planting. The crop turned out fairly decent which was surprising considering we had drought conditions June through late July. Thanks to the US government giving larger than normal bailouts to their farmers the price is shïte for cereal growers in Canada because it’s been driven down so much. For a country that prides itself on being capitalist, they sure do have socialist policies when it comes to keeping their Ag sector on the governments tít.
 
We got all the winter wheat off finally a week or so ago, fields have been fertilized and worked in ready for spring planting. The crop turned out fairly decent which was surprising considering we had drought conditions June through late July. Thanks to the US government giving larger than normal bailouts to their farmers the price is shïte for cereal growers in Canada because it’s been driven down so much. For a country that prides itself on being capitalist, they sure do have socialist policies when it comes to keeping their Ag sector on the governments tít.
Good skills getting it all in the barn. It always seems to be that when you have a decent year it's worth sod all.
 
Good skills getting it all in the barn. It always seems to be that when you have a decent year it's worth sod all.
Seems it will be a good season for all cash crops here, not sure how prices will hold with the septics getting ridiculous subsidies. If they had to earn their keep like the rest of us, everyone would walk away with a decent profit, but l can’t see that happening.
 
We got all the winter wheat off finally a week or so ago, fields have been fertilized and worked in ready for spring planting. The crop turned out fairly decent which was surprising considering we had drought conditions June through late July. Thanks to the US government giving larger than normal bailouts to their farmers the price is shïte for cereal growers in Canada because it’s been driven down so much. For a country that prides itself on being capitalist, they sure do have socialist policies when it comes to keeping their Ag sector on the governments tít.
Being the USA, most 'incentives' go to the very large agribusinesses with political connections and with very little other than crop insurance to the small farmers as my neighbours in Indiana explained to me.

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Being the USA, most 'incentives' go to the very large agribusinesses with political connections and with very little other than crop insurance to the small farmers as my neighbours in Indiana explained to me.

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I didn’t wish to delve into particulars as this is the farming thread, but l am more referring to covid bailouts paid out when the crops haven’t even been harvested in many cases. Billy Joe JimBob on his 2 acre pig farm in the middle of Appalachia is eligible to get some government coin, even if his hogs are decent it’s not just the BTO’s. It drives the commodity prices down for the entire continent when the subsidies and bailouts occur before anything has even went through the combines header.
 
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Sorry I'm 24 hrs late,I'm just catching up with myself...
Well we got a start yesterday in the spring barley, decidedly averageand straw yield crap!
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The green lush stuff in the foreground are carrots ( with a few wild oats chucked in)...
Fantastic yields of those roundabouts, there should be with the deluges we've been having since June....
Just for @Humble Tiller, this is what a typical harvest Oop North entails...
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The only field of w wheat in the district was cut yesterday too..
It just about scraped 2t/ac ( and had the kitchen sink chucked at it)...
Once the weed seed is cleaned out it'll be under.

Down corn
Up horn....
Never been truer this year, it seems.
 
Sorry I'm 24 hrs late,I'm just catching up with myself...
Well we got a start yesterday in the spring barley, decidedly averageand straw yield crap!
View attachment 497506
The green lush stuff in the foreground are carrots ( with a few wild oats chucked in)...
Fantastic yields of those roundabouts, there should be with the deluges we've been having since June....
Just for @Humble Tiller, this is what a typical harvest Oop North entails...View attachment 497510
The only field of w wheat in the district was cut yesterday too..
It just about scraped 2t/ac ( and had the kitchen sink chucked at it)...
Once the weed seed is cleaned out it'll be under.

Down corn
Up horn....
Never been truer this year, it seems
Seeing your last picture makes me glad that I am a shandy drinking southerner. What a horrible year it has been for many, and a challenging winter lies ahead for those that are now feeding winter forage due to the drought.
A bit of me thinks that having a bad cereal year might not be such a bad thing.
The expectation that yields will increase year on year, and we must be doing something terribly wrong if we don't hit 4t/acre in wheat and 3.5 in spring barley is unsustainable.
 
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Looks like we won't be finishing those 15 acres of barley this side of the weekend then. Hopefully this rain will get the grass growing.
We picked up our first steer from the abattoir yesterday, he was a big lad, 407kg carcass weight. He is now in the garage, in 2 chillers and 2 freezers.
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