The Evil George W Bush?

#1
I received this email today from a trusted source and I think it says a lot about our former president that is a bit different from the abuse so many seem to take such glee in heaping on him. I disagreed with a number of his policies but I still appreciate the way he treats our military with respect and dignity.

A man had a TV on in his office when the news of the military base shootings came on. The husband of one of his employees was stationed there. He called her into his office and the minute he told her what was going on, she got a text message from her husband saying, "I am okay."

The cell phone started ringing right after that. It was an ER nurse. She said , "I'm the one who just sent you a text, not your husband." She thought the message would be comforting, but she immediately knew she had to let the wife know what was going on. She said, "I am sorry but your husband has been shot 4 times and he is in surgery."

The wife left Southern Clinic in Dothan, Alabama and drove all night.

Attached is the photo that was taken in the hospital room.

He is awake and will recover. His wife, who lives in Dothan, made it to Ft. Hood about the time he was waking up.
 
#2
He's been visiting the wounded and their families, the kin of the dead since 2001 with little fanfare or press coverage. Most of the images come from kin and the Soldiers themselves.

He's taken their Accolades and their Abuse. I know few politicians who do the same without a retinue of journos in tow.
 
#3
I'm sure I'm not the only Brit who thinks this, but he was always portayed as a bit of a muppet here, but I really am envious of care for the armed forces community. If only our government really had a care for us. But then it's always been like that here :(
 
#4
Stoppage!!! said:
I'm sure I'm not the only Brit who thinks this, but he was always portayed as a bit of a muppet here, but I really am envious of care for the armed forces community. If only our government really had a care for us. But then it's always been like that here :(
I agree with you. I have a few friends in the US and I know he is well respected by the US military and law enforcement etc. I believe he was `assassinated`by our great British media and branded as some numpty, war mongering fcukwit. He may have made made himself unpopular in some quarters in the US but Barry Obama (who the British media seem to worship) has made himself more unpopular very rapidly across the pond.
 
#5
purplegunner said:
Stoppage!!! said:
I'm sure I'm not the only Brit who thinks this, but he was always portayed as a bit of a muppet here, but I really am envious of care for the armed forces community. If only our government really had a care for us. But then it's always been like that here :(
I agree with you. I have a few friends in the US and I know he is well respected by the US military and law enforcement etc. I believe he was `assassinated`by our great British media and branded as some numpty, war mongering fcukwit. He may have made made himself unpopular in some quarters in the US but Barry Obama (who the British media seem to worship) has made himself more unpopular very rapidly across the pond.
The British press do love him don't they! But he seems to be a bit of a ditherer over defense issues, especially with the US commitment to Afghanistan :(
 
#6
Stoppage!!! said:
purplegunner said:
Stoppage!!! said:
I'm sure I'm not the only Brit who thinks this, but he was always portayed as a bit of a muppet here, but I really am envious of care for the armed forces community. If only our government really had a care for us. But then it's always been like that here :(
I agree with you. I have a few friends in the US and I know he is well respected by the US military and law enforcement etc. I believe he was `assassinated`by our great British media and branded as some numpty, war mongering fcukwit. He may have made made himself unpopular in some quarters in the US but Barry Obama (who the British media seem to worship) has made himself more unpopular very rapidly across the pond.
The British press do love him don't they! But he seems to be a bit of a ditherer over defense issues, especially with the US commitment to Afghanistan :(
Too true
 
#7
Goldbricker said:
He's been visiting the wounded and their families, the kin of the dead since 2001 with little fanfare or press coverage. Most of the images come from kin and the Soldiers themselves.

He's taken their Accolades and their Abuse. I know few politicians who do the same without a retinue of journos in tow.
It's not true. Bugsy says so.
 
#8
purplegunner said:
Stoppage!!! said:
purplegunner said:
Stoppage!!! said:
I'm sure I'm not the only Brit who thinks this, but he was always portayed as a bit of a muppet here, but I really am envious of care for the armed forces community. If only our government really had a care for us. But then it's always been like that here :(
I agree with you. I have a few friends in the US and I know he is well respected by the US military and law enforcement etc. I believe he was `assassinated`by our great British media and branded as some numpty, war mongering fcukwit. He may have made made himself unpopular in some quarters in the US but Barry Obama (who the British media seem to worship) has made himself more unpopular very rapidly across the pond.
The British press do love him don't they! But he seems to be a bit of a ditherer over defense issues, especially with the US commitment to Afghanistan :(
Too true
Mind you old Gordon Brown grasped the nettle when he made a huge committment to send a further 500 troops to the 'stan. Not even a full battalion. I bet the 500 will consist of 200 storemen, 100 stewards, 200 typists to type letters to say how good Gordon is, and a dog called Colin who's blind in one eye :lol:
 
#9
purplegunner said:
I believe he was `assassinated`by our great British media and branded as some numpty, war mongering fcukwit.
How can they call him a warmonger? He only started two wars which subsequently turned into quagmires (giggity). Far better to refer to him as a peacemaking genius.
 
#10
PoisonDwarf said:
purplegunner said:
I believe he was `assassinated`by our great British media and branded as some numpty, war mongering fcukwit.
How can they call him a warmonger? He only started two wars which subsequently turned into quagmires (giggity). Far better to refer to him as a peacemaking genius.
Methinks you doth protest too much. The decisions to which you refer were not made by the ever evil GWB in a vacuum. While I readily agree that as CinC, as for any leader in the chain of command the buck stops with him, but you oversimplify the process to suit your apparent personal issues with him. At least he made decisions when needed.
 
#11
PoisonDwarf said:
purplegunner said:
I believe he was `assassinated`by our great British media and branded as some numpty, war mongering fcukwit.
How can they call him a warmonger? He only started two wars which subsequently turned into quagmires (giggity). Far better to refer to him as a peacemaking genius.
Now good old Queen Victoria was a war monger, she started 60 (sixty) wars/conflicts during her reign. Mind you the British Army was much bigger then :wink:
 

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#12
jumpinjarhead said:
PoisonDwarf said:
purplegunner said:
I believe he was `assassinated`by our great British media and branded as some numpty, war mongering fcukwit.
How can they call him a warmonger? He only started two wars which subsequently turned into quagmires (giggity). Far better to refer to him as a peacemaking genius.
Methinks you doth protest too much. The decisions to which you refer were not made by the ever evil GWB in a vacuum. While I readily agree that as CinC, as for any leader in the chain of command the buck stops with him, but you oversimplify the process to suit your apparent personal issues with him. At least he made decisions when needed.
usually the wrong ones... and then after ten minutes trying to come to grips with a book for infants.
respect to the bloke for having the decency to visit his troops in hospital - but for a lot of them, I cant help feeling that perhaps they wouldnt be there if he was a slightly clearer thinker, and not as easily led as he seems to be.
 

maguire

LE
Book Reviewer
#13
Stoppage!!! said:
PoisonDwarf said:
purplegunner said:
I believe he was `assassinated`by our great British media and branded as some numpty, war mongering fcukwit.
How can they call him a warmonger? He only started two wars which subsequently turned into quagmires (giggity). Far better to refer to him as a peacemaking genius.
Now good old Queen Victoria was a war monger, she started 60 (sixty) wars/conflicts during her reign. Mind you the British Army was much bigger then :wink:
'...back in the old days when the prerequisite of a British campaign was that the enemy should under no circumstances carry guns -- even spears made us think twice. The kind of people we liked to fight were two feet tall and armed with dry grass.'
 
#14
maguire said:
Stoppage!!! said:
PoisonDwarf said:
purplegunner said:
I believe he was `assassinated`by our great British media and branded as some numpty, war mongering fcukwit.
How can they call him a warmonger? He only started two wars which subsequently turned into quagmires (giggity). Far better to refer to him as a peacemaking genius.
Now good old Queen Victoria was a war monger, she started 60 (sixty) wars/conflicts during her reign. Mind you the British Army was much bigger then :wink:
'...back in the old days when the prerequisite of a British campaign was that the enemy should under no circumstances carry guns -- even spears made us think twice. The kind of people we liked to fight were two feet tall and armed with dry grass.'
Have you seen the cut you can get from dry grass, paper cuts are nothing on them. 8O
 
#15
maguire said:
jumpinjarhead said:
PoisonDwarf said:
purplegunner said:
I believe he was `assassinated`by our great British media and branded as some numpty, war mongering fcukwit.
How can they call him a warmonger? He only started two wars which subsequently turned into quagmires (giggity). Far better to refer to him as a peacemaking genius.
Methinks you doth protest too much. The decisions to which you refer were not made by the ever evil GWB in a vacuum. While I readily agree that as CinC, as for any leader in the chain of command the buck stops with him, but you oversimplify the process to suit your apparent personal issues with him. At least he made decisions when needed.
usually the wrong ones... and then after ten minutes trying to come to grips with a book for infants.
respect to the bloke for having the decency to visit his troops in hospital - but for a lot of them, I cant help feeling that perhaps they wouldnt be there if he was a slightly clearer thinker, and not as easily led as he seems to be.
You are entitled to your opinion but I hope you have not formed it solely on the basis of the European (and elitist US) media bashing that developed into a veritable art form. The man had his faults and I vehemently disagreed with a number of his policies and decisions (such as the policies regarding detainees from the GWOT, the proposed amnesty for illegal immigrants and his unfortunate swan song of beginning the whole bail-out mess now being continued with a vengeance by our current rulers).

I do not believe, however, that he is the cretinous monkey as he was so effectively portrayed by many pundits and others with varied agendas. In fact, compared to the current political hand-wringing and ineptitude in DC and London at present over what to do in Afghanistan, I think GWB's reactions to 9/11 were positively brilliant.
 
#16
The media assassinated Bush after he inexplicably decided to invade Iraq rather than go full bore into Afghanistan. Bush's good works, and there were many, were often not reported and always under reported.

Obumble on the other hand? I can't for the life of me discern a shred of sincerity in anything he says or does, his mission and that of his Chicago puppeteers, is simply to ensure he is re-elected.

Brown/Obama...... there's little difference.
 
#17
jumpinjarhead said:
I hope you have not formed it solely on the basis of the European (and elitist US) media bashing that developed into a veritable art form
.

And elitism's bad because...? Maybe the US military should relax all entry standards?

jumpinjarhead said:
I think GWB's reactions to 9/11 were positively brilliant.
Yes, Saddam must rue the day he crashed those planes into the twin towers. And Iran must hate the fact that they were suddenly turned into top dog in the Gulf.



"Thanks George. We could never have done it without you"
 
#18
Rumpelstiltskin said:
jumpinjarhead said:
I hope you have not formed it solely on the basis of the European (and elitist US) media bashing that developed into a veritable art form
.

And elitism's bad because...? Maybe the US military should relax all entry standards?

jumpinjarhead said:
I think GWB's reactions to 9/11 were positively brilliant.
Yes, Saddam must rue the day he crashed those planes into the twin towers. And Iran must hate the fact that they were suddenly turned into top dog in the Gulf.



"Thanks George. We could never have done it without you"
I do not believe media should be so elitist as to become propaganda organs for any political point of view as event the internal ombusdsmen for the Washington Post and NY Times have effectively noted.

I renew my belief that much of the position directed at GWB is the result of a very effective propaganda campaign and innuendo rather than substantive evidence.
 
#19
jumpinjarhead said:
I renew my belief that much of the position directed at GWB is the result of a very effective propaganda campaign and innuendo rather than substantive evidence.
How much substantive evidence do you need, JJ? If he'd been doing his job properly, maybe 9/11 wouldn't have happened. And don't forget that of the eight years he was in office thoroughly banjoing the US economy and reputation in the world, almost three of them were spent on his hols (or vacation). He never took the job seriously, since he was only there because Dick(head) Cheney would never have been elected without him.

Bush was only ever a spoilt, rich brat who very much liked the idea of everybody calling him Mr President, without bothering to actually "be" a president. He was a waster and should never have been elected in the first place. It'll take the US about 20 years to shrug off the effects of his unholy alliance to give Dick(head) Cheney the opportunity to be president.

MsG
 
#20
Bugsy said:
If he'd been doing his job properly, maybe 9/11 wouldn't have happened.
MsG
And on what do you base this fantastic supposition? If one studies the 9/11 situation, it is apparent that it was the culmination of many years of errors, bad judgments, ill-conceived policies etcl of previous administrations, of both parties. Given the fact that Bush had only been in office for 9 months I think your suggestion lends even more support to my contention that much of the slagging done about Bush is misdirected. I do not argue the other points about his privileged upbringing etc. as many other of our national politicians have the same issues. The fact the bush is so singled out this way again tells me there is more to it than the actual facts about his life and times.
 

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