while in Florida i spotted a book entitled the European dream , an interesting read, it seems that USA has now reached the end of the road re the American dream and started to lose faith in it, as many are underpaid , overworked, with little emplyment rights and many live in fear of a Major illness as it would make them bankrupt. 50 million American don't have medical insurance. mimimum wage in Florida is $6.13 an hour BUT in TIPPED employment (Bar work, hotel , Catering etc) you only get $3.30 an hour so if make good tips great if not then its really shite, i have spoken to many Floridians and New Yorkers many do mention the insecurity they live under. Hurricane Katrina has recently exposed the downside of America in a big way especially the poverty that prevails amongst the low income White and Blacks, this is a potential powderkeg situation boiling under the nose of the American rich who don't want to see the problem. while the EU including the UK is starting to become a powerful economic zone with secure welfare. Healthcare system, good employment protection and good productivity , UK in particular shine in this respect, the EU is a big trading block and if Turkey joins up , there is a large young workforce ready to work in the service industry. im sure neither is 100% perfect but it does makes an interesting read and discussion point , do you guys think America is stuffed and Europe is on the rise ? The European Dream by Jeremy Rifkin (American) http://www.utne.com/pub/2004_125/promo/11349-1.html http://www.theconnection.org/shows/2004/08/20040818_b_main.asp American minmum wage http://www.dol.gov/esa/minwage/america.htm this is not a personal attack on the American nation, i actually like visiting the country, sampling the lifestyle , driving the cars, big meals, cheap petrol etc, i liked St Augustine (the Oldest town 1565) in Florida, Boston and New York but i don't feel compelled to take out US citizenship, im opening the floor for discussion on the merits of this idea of the European dream.